does anybody else know any about what i am going to need in order to start painting

 

$ and time. and then a good gun for primer and a good gun for paint/clear

 

pm's fucking rule.


but yeah. get a sata gun....any gun will do. a good compressor. mask, if you dont want to pass out. a bunch of little shit.

 

ok thx

 

NO IT WILL NOT !!!!........for a beginner,i suppose so, but once you really get into it junk ass guns are exactly that, junk ass guns, get something good once you get the hang of it and feel like youve become a descent painter, devilbiss, sata, sharpe are all great guns and you will see the difference....


to do bodywork, heres the basics-

-body hammer/ or hammer set
-material wiper
-hand block
-cheese grater file
-lots of different grit sandpaper
-bondo/or fiberglass
-primer gun- descent primer, lacquer or urethane(i prefer urethane cause its thicker, waterproof and lays better), but lacquer primer can get the job done as well, lacquer primer is a whole lot cheaper as well....for lacquer primer you will also need a good quality lacquer thinner to reduce the primer....to start getting into bigger jobs i would suggest an air file, and a d/a....keep in mind the air file and d/a sandpaper can get expensive when bought in bulk....

basics for paint:

-good air compressor that can support the cfm air consumption of the paint gun...
-good paint gun
-water hose
-cleaning material for pre paint cleaning- such as FIRST KLEEN...
-in line filter
-descent air regulator or regulators, i have one for each gun
-GOOD respirator
-lacquer thinner for cleaning
-tack cloth( i use tack cloth in beetween each coat of paint, wait for flash and wipe it down lightly, it will pick up alot of surface dust or pieces of dirt that you wont be able to get out wetsanding)
-plenty of paper towels
-paint mixers and strainers
-good paint paper

and for clear, get a designated clear gun..thats what i do, i have 6 paint guns and they all are for something different......1 is for lacquer primer, 1 is for urethane primer, 1 is for sealer, 1 if for base and the last is for clear, each have different fluid tips meant to spray best with a certain material and i have one backup gun just incase something goes wrong with my base or clear gun......

for finishing:

hopefully if you are the shizznit and can paint in the garage without getting any pieces of dirt in your clear, or are just plain out the bomb and can spray clear without any orange peel, you wont need any of this, but in the instance your not, this is what you will need..

-1500-2k grit sandpaper
-variable speed high speed buffer with wool pad and foam pads
-rubbing compound(first stage)-use wool pad
-finishing material such as 3m FINESSE -IT 1/2(second stage), and 3m foam pad polish(third stage)-use foam pads, i also have a designated pad for each step of buffing, but please practice on something unimportant before buffing because you will burn right through the paint and clear in a heartbeat if you dont...
-hand glaze(forth stage)
-finishing towels, lintless...

you can get all these materials at the local paintshops, but you will need to setup an account to get paint and such mixed (well, your supposed to), and its best to setup and account so you can get better discounts, i go to MATTOS pro finishes on witchduck road, if you go there talk to MIKE, he is good to deal with and is a cool guy......good luck....

oh and heres a tip for fluid tips....

for primers -1.5-1.6
for sealer-1.4-1.5
for base.1.3-1.4
for clear- i ONLY USE 1.3 if i can help it....you have to be rather good to clear with anything bigger than that.....

if you want to ensure a great paint job, the best way is to make sure you always have a clean envrionment, which can be very hard to obtain in a garage but it can be done.. after you finish basing, let the paint dry for a while, color sand with 2-3k grit sandpaper if there is any dirt in the paint, clean and then clear, thats how you get the showroom shine......

 

damn rick....you really got into it

 

ya he did!! thx dude greatly apprecitated(sp)

 

You forgot a water trap on your list..

 

thats why i get paid for it now.....



thats what my devilbiss inline filters are for, they trap dirt and water in the line if my water seperator that is attached to the compressor misses anything.....

 

every thing more impatient said is true exept for i would never use laquer primer on something i care about because it just doesnt have he hold out that a 2k urethane or epoxy does. if you are interested have about 13 paint guns. 7 satas ,4 anest iwatas, and 2 transtar guns. i will probably be selling 2 of my sata jet 90s because i now use anest iwatas for clear . the guns are in good condition just broke in real good i paint an average of 20 cars a day,so a good cleaning and they will be ready to go . i will probably sell them for 100 bucks a piece they both have 1.3 setups in them