and a lawnmower engine is cheaper than that....doesnt mean u want it powering your civic.....

the cheapest motor for power is the h22....any other motor with as much hp is atleast 2k more (type R) not to mention the torque numbers on the R arent close to the H....theres always K series for like 5k.......

 

on osakajdmmotors.com h22 with tranny is 1700.....with lsd its another 200

 

I thought civics WERE powered by lawnmower engines.......

But, after the swap is done and you have bought all the things you are supposed to with no short cutting. The swap then becomes quite pricey. Whereas with a simple ls there isnt much extra stuff to buy. Of course the h22 would destroy the ls stock for stock, but thats not what we're talking about. We were talking about which is cheaper. And the LS, when its all said and done, is cheaper.

 

lol, and if you buy from osaka you may as well flip a coin to see if your motor gets to you without being fucked up. If you do buy an H, go with either HMO or IAS. I went with HMO for my H (2 years ago) and have not yet had a problem. Osaka has pages after pages of pissed off buyers on h-t. Dont let their prices fool you, they are definently a prime example of "you get what you pay for."

 

i got my h22 from there and its been amlost 2 years still no problems

 

He was talking about running a b16 or even a b18c.....both of those motors are more expensive than the h22

 

f22's are cheap under 1k and with i/h/e i put 141whp and 137tq

besides the tranny they can handle 7psi stock

 

Be a baller and put a k20 in it.

 

Looks to me like he was talkin about doing an LS too...... Out of all 3 motors, the LS is cheaper, period. Cheaper complete changeover to purchase, cheaper to install. According to what he wanted "cheap and quick" the LS wins hands down. When its all said and done, the H is neither a cheap or quick install in comparison to the LS.

 

lemme break it down for you....
H22:
2K for swap w/lsd
$500 to $800 for install into an EG..involves removing the passenger mount and wiring
$500 Hasport H22 mounts
$300-$500 for alxes depending stage and brand
=so your looking at something around $3,600
But you have stock motor that can run high 13's to low 14's depending on car and driver with plenty more potential and ive seen stock h22 with bolts in the 12's( on slicks)
LS motor=
$1,200 avg for swap
mounts and axles- stock included in swap price
install- 200 up to 500- but can be installed in your own garage-pretty easy swap

so in the end you will have paid around $1,500 for a stock LS motor that will run mid 15's that you could be running with your EX with bolt on's, dont get me wrong LS motors can fast, ive seen turbo LS's make 400-500 whp on semi built motors that are dialy driven but in the end its all up to YOU
I personally am going H22........Good Luck