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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by kenbdSi
The SMC will also work . The way the "Hack" works is that is uses the stock MAP to read boost, inconjunction with the larger injectors. No check valves and missing links or FMU's. It does this by lowering the MAP voltage. Since the stock map is still being used,on a MAP table ,Honda ECU's timing are advanced at higher rpm's. But,all that extra fuel keeps it rich and kinda safe. Best solution is a Standalone or Hondata.
So why is it called a hack? That's exactly how it's supposed to work.
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 06:42 AM
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I guess the name derived beacause it "Hacks" into the stock MAP????The difference is that the conventional Missing Links and FMU's are used to blend boost from the stock map and raising the fuel pressure. With the "hack", you can now boost up to around 11psi and the stock map will read pressure while having enough fuel with the larger injectors
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 07:13 AM
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I still don't see why it's called a hack when it's just the safc or vafc doing what it was designed to do.
Maybe it's just a thing for the honda boys to make it sound elite, kind of like "the unit".
Still doesn't top the "diverter valve" thing vw guys use to make themselves feel special hahahaha.

I'd also like to clarify something. The safc and vafc DO NOT adjust timing like I said before.
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Heat
I still don't see why it's called a hack when it's just the safc or vafc doing what it was designed to do.
Maybe it's just a thing for the honda boys to make it sound elite, kind of like "the unit".
Still doesn't top the "diverter valve" thing vw guys use to make themselves feel special hahahaha.

I'd also like to clarify something. The safc and vafc DO NOT adjust timing like I said before.
The set up is a basically a votage divider for the stock MAP.with the larger injectors it drop the voltage input. If some one witha turbo honda just run a VAFC or SAFC with out larger injector or even missing link or FMU, then codes will be thrown because the ecus will see pressure. With the Hack, the afc is used to trim the fuel to around -40% to -35%. The setting are used to get the car to idle right. You are correct . The AFC's do not advance the ignition timing. The Honda ecu is what advances the ignition tables. I guess the term HACK is just a Honda thing.
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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I dont know, all I know is that the dude at autosolutions said that after head work I could run 7-8 psi on stokc pistons and rods n stuff...
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 01:39 PM
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Yeah, I think it was Crate that posted that up...I have just heard/read that if you want to boost the 22, resleeve, pistons, rods are your safest bet....I wouldn't trust stock shit at 8 psi for too long on my motor.
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 01:47 PM
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ACCEL DFI...now offers the genVII kits for honda and acura.
if interested , let me know i'm a dealer for ACCEL.
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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what is the price range for it?
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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just get the hondata s200 with boost..and go tune it...i wouldnt run the hack, if its yoru daily driver and you cant afford to be buying another motor..i mean its only 425.00 shipped and it can get tuned in about 3 hours if that on a stock motor and you just gonna run 8psi...My boy ran the hack and his gsr said..bye bye..motor blew...
I mean you spend all that money on the car and turbo kit dont half ass the most important parts of making power..the fuel.
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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But the problem is getting it tuned, it will be like another couple hundred...oh well it will be worth it....does anyone know about how much it is to tune them?



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