Nothing from what you have said so far would even suggest that you need a cage. You don't need one for autocrossing. Do you participate in events that you would need the added protection of a cage?

 

I don't feel comfortable using a harness without, at the very least, a roll bar. At that point why not just get a cage?

 

Because a cage is a pain in the butt for a regular car. If you are not doing track events I don't think I would put a cage in a car. If you only do autocrossing it is not needed. You still have not explained what type of events you participate in and if it is a daily driver or not. A cage for VIR would be nice but if you have not gone yet wait until you have some experiance first. I just got back from VIR and none of the cars in my group had a cage. You may decide you dont like track events and not go back.

 

Let me worry about what I'm comfortable with as a daily driven car. The same thing came up in the thread I posted that had links to pictures of the Cusco cage. Yes, some people couldn't stand it in a car that's daily driven, others didn't mind it so much.

Are any of the mods you've done for you car really needed? Of course not, they do something better than stock or offer you some feature you want. But absolutely, positively, without a doubt needed? Probably not. I want roll over protection. Perhaps you're comfortable using a harness without a cage, I am not.

I was merely trying to clear up some of the rules before I purchased a cage. Which as many of the posts Calvin made point out, are extremely confusing. I wasn't trying to determine if I should get a cage or not.

 

he said he would not put a cage in his car if he was not doing track events, he wasn't telling you what to do.

what does having a harness have to do w/ having a cage? what do you plan on doing that invovles flipping over?

 

Who plans to flip over? You don't need to be racing to have that happen. Naturally the chances of this happening during normal driving are pretty slim, but racing does increase the odds.

With that out of the way if you roll and have normal seat belts on the way they are designed you can move down/out of the way. Try leaning to the side with them on and you'll see what I'm talking about. Damn that common sense! With a harness you're not going anywhere. If your car rolls and you don't have something to prevent the roof from collapsing ... bye bye, nice knowing you, see ya later.

 

Tis what im doing too, its actually to your advantage to have a custom one done cause you can get it formed to your needs such as camera brackets, or color, or whatever.....


You can use the lil foam rings (pool noodles) and some duct tape, or the foam that went around old school BMX bikes....No need to spend a lot of money on some name brand pads.......

 

FWIW, the Solo II rules do say that a convertible can't use anything but the factory belts, unless a rollbar is installed. Specifically for the reason that eng said. If it rolls you grab hold of the shifter and pull yourself towards it.

 

I did choose to use a 4pt harness for autocrossing but will not use it without a bar at a roadcourse. The only reason to put a cage in a car in my book is for roadcourse work. The speeds in autocrossing are just not high enough to warrant a cage.