Local S2000/Ferrari F40 owners dicsussion thread
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Re: Local S2000/Ferrari F40 owners dicsussion thread
Hey guys, anyone know a decent place to pick up an AP2 OEM lip. Would prefer an actual OEM lip, but I know the prices are all crazy since they come painted. Would it be worth it to just get a decent replica and paint that, to save a decent amount of money? If so does anyone have any experience with replica lips that turned out decently?
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Re: Local S2000/Ferrari F40 owners dicsussion thread
Looking to buy my wife a white s2000, whats up with all the local s2000 cars being 11k and rebuilt or salv titles. And I now see why I cant find a white one, they're all silver!!
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Originally Posted by The real Ryan:8125222
They also complained about the lack of torque, the cheap feeling interior, the shitty sound system, ect. So those are a few more perks of the Ap2 over the Ap1. The Ap2 never proved to be a better or worse car in terms of competition though.
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Re: Local S2000/Ferrari F40 owners dicsussion thread
The ap1 had a rear bais spring rate to promote oversteer. In it's early years the S2000 was meant to be pure competition in the sports car scene. However only old people could afford them, so enough old people complained about how hard it was to control the car and thus the Ap2 was born. With a front bais suspension setup and a few other suspension geometry points changed around to make the car easier to control.
They also complained about the lack of torque, the cheap feeling interior, the shitty sound system, ect. So those are a few more perks of the Ap2 over the Ap1. The Ap2 never proved to be a better or worse car in terms of competition though.
They also complained about the lack of torque, the cheap feeling interior, the shitty sound system, ect. So those are a few more perks of the Ap2 over the Ap1. The Ap2 never proved to be a better or worse car in terms of competition though.
This whole tuner mentality that thinks stiffer suspension always = better handling is wrong. There's a balance to be had, and it's not easy to get right.
I know people hate hearing this, but Honda set-up the suspension on AP2s better than AP1s. AP2s are more comfortable, smoother riding, more forgiving, more predictable, and just as fast. My ideal S2000 would be the original motor in the AP2 chassis.
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Re: Local S2000/Ferrari F40 owners dicsussion thread
KW's would have to be lubed too, the cause is dirt and junk getting in the threads, not the material or precision of the threads themselves.
Stiffer springs just put the tire into the ground with more force. The reason they reduce grip on some cars is they put more force than the tires can handle. Suspension theory is really complex as shit.
Stiffer springs just put the tire into the ground with more force. The reason they reduce grip on some cars is they put more force than the tires can handle. Suspension theory is really complex as shit.
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Year...........Front/Rear....... Sway Bar
2000-2001 | 219 291 | 393 427
2002-2003 | 246 309 | 300 396
2004-2005 | 262 278 | 300 311
2006-2007 | 262 269 | 300 311
2008-2009 | 280 294 | 354 311
2008-2009 CR | 384 343 | 392 362
Note 1: All figures are in lb/in. Divide by 56 to get kg/mm. Note 2: Edited 17Nov2010 with slight updates to spring rates per rev1 of paper.
2000-2001 | 219 291 | 393 427
2002-2003 | 246 309 | 300 396
2004-2005 | 262 278 | 300 311
2006-2007 | 262 269 | 300 311
2008-2009 | 280 294 | 354 311
2008-2009 CR | 384 343 | 392 362
Note 1: All figures are in lb/in. Divide by 56 to get kg/mm. Note 2: Edited 17Nov2010 with slight updates to spring rates per rev1 of paper.
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Re: Local S2000/Ferrari F40 owners dicsussion thread
Certainly spring rates are a factor for the AP1's tendency to oversteer, but doesn't the different rear suspension geometry play a bigger role? The control arm mounting point and rear knuckles changed...under hard cornering, sudden-throttle lift, or hitting a bump the AP1's rear toe changes rapidly...I would think that would play a greater role in it's tendency to "snap" oversteer.