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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyanide Jello
Don't pretend to know the reasons I do thing, tool bag... You're atempting to get under my skin w/ things you obviously know nothing about... You're just a bolt-on fanboy who got ass hurt over some wheels... I never said your shit was fake... I just wanted proof that they were real and see if you'd back your shit up...
No, just trying to stop the umad/bro bullshit that goes on in this forum. fight fire with fire

and, well i did prove it


..my knock offs are on my Sc300 in my sig and icon and i had KONIG knockoffs on my old civic. iv been there, personally i dont notice any difference in how they ride, a wheel is a fking wheel.




and maybe i was just trying to piss you off. it seems like i have succeeded since your still replying back. and no, i wont indulge you in making a SPO, you'd only get off to that. so, if you will please trim up the bushes in my front yard and landscape the garden for me

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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by enot767
No, just trying to stop the umad/bro bullshit that goes on in this forum. fight fire with fire

and, well i did prove it


..my knock offs are on my Sc300 in my sig and icon and i had KONIG knockoffs on my old civic. iv been there, personally i dont notice any difference in how they ride, a wheel is a fking wheel.




and maybe i was just trying to piss you off. it seems like i have succeeded since your still replying back.
Your post makes no sense... So let me try to decipher it...

You're not going to stop the umadbro shit... It won't happen...

You haven't proven anything...

We weren't even talking about your sc300... You dropped your Civic in here like some prize show car...

Yes, a wheel is a wheel if its intended purpose is to live its life out on a street car...

You haven't pissed me off... The only thing you've done is be my amusement for an hour or so... Congratulations...

I think I'll go to bed now...
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyanide Jello
Your post makes no sense... So let me try to decipher it...
your right, you keep editing your posts. so i try to accommodate you, and edit mine.

You're not going to stop the umadbro shit... It won't happen...
stop butt fucking kim bro, not kewl.

You haven't proven anything...
i along with the guy with the neon proved that it "real" wheels or not, it can break and each is treated to the same sort of refining and post-production quality assurance.

We weren't even talking about your sc300... You dropped your Civic in here like some prize show car...
read the bold above - i was making a point that my civic has "real" wheels and my sc doesnt. and it looks like no one else has both so i dropped mine in to prove that i wasn't one of these fan boys you speak of.

Yes, a wheel is a wheel if its intended purpose is to live its life out on a street car...
yep.

You haven't pissed me off... The only thing you've done is be my amusement for an hour or so... Congratulations...
okey dokie, chief.

I think I'll go to bed now...
g'night

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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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Would you fuck me?


I'd fuck me....


I'd fuck me hard.
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark-SRT4
He doesn't know what he's talking about.

The difference in track/street wheels is the metal, track wheels can sustain larger forces and experience little 'give' but they are brittle, one good impact (like a curb or a pot hole) will practically shatter them.
Street wheels are a bit more malleable, they will still become damaged from curbs/pot-holes but instead of shattering they simply bend and/or crack.

One main difference is fatigue, the track wheels simply don't 'wear out' as quickly as a street wheel would, on the track.
See, this is how misinformation starts.

So track wheels are strong but brittle, and street wheels are malleable but weak? So the brittle wheel has better fatigue resistance under high loads than the malleable wheel does? So a wheel which can take much less abuse without brittle failure can also take much more cyclic fatigue too? Wow. You've got the concept of fatigue exactly backwards.

Track wheels are lighter than street wheels because they don't need to stand up to continuous daily use for years. They can be inspected whenever necessary, so fatigue resistance isn't as much of an issue. Along the same lines, many track wheels have to go through a much more rigorous inspection after manufacturing to detect flaws, voids, basically anything that will cause safety issues under high racing loads. They have a certain service life too, unlike street wheels which will practically last forever if not damaged. Street wheels can take more abuse because they're built stouter, not necessarily because of metallurgical reasons.

Track and street wheels usually have virtually identical manufacturing processes and materials, for the good brands at least. You're basically trying to say that something like a 12 pound forged and heat treated street wheel can take more abuse than a 9 pound forged heat treated track wheel because of different metallurgy, not because the street wheel has three more pounds of metal for reinforcement?

You're making a lot of generalizations about things which are much too varied to make generalizations about.

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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 11:21 PM
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Fabrik8's signature is spot on.
Old Dec 25, 2009 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabrik8
See, this is how misinformation starts.

So track wheels are strong but brittle, and street wheels are malleable but weak? So the brittle wheel has better fatigue resistance under high loads than the malleable wheel does? So a wheel which can take much less abuse without brittle failure can also take much more cyclic fatigue too? Wow. You've got the concept of fatigue exactly backwards.

Track wheels are lighter than street wheels because they don't need to stand up to continuous daily use for years. They can be inspected whenever necessary, so fatigue resistance isn't as much of an issue. Along the same lines, many track wheels have to go through a much more rigorous inspection after manufacturing to detect flaws, voids, basically anything that will cause safety issues under high racing loads. They have a certain service life too, unlike street wheels which will practically last forever if not damaged. Street wheels can take more abuse because they're built stouter, not necessarily because of metallurgical reasons.

Track and street wheels usually have virtually identical manufacturing processes and materials, for the good brands at least. You're basically trying to say that something like a 12 pound forged and heat treated street wheel can take more abuse than a 9 pound forged heat treated track wheel because of different metallurgy, not because the street wheel has three more pounds of metal for reinforcement?

You're making a lot of generalizations about things which are much too varied to make generalizations about.
I agree that the same wheel made to weigh less will surely not be as strong, no doubts there.

My comment was vague so I'll reiterate, magnesium wheels and aluminum wheels, the 'mag' wheel will offer less weight in the same design of an aluminum wheel but will be brittle in comparison.

Yes, all track wheels should be inspected regularly as well as many other points on the vehicle considering they exhibit accelerated wear compared to a street car.
Old Dec 26, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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i feel i lost a bit of my intelligence just reading that whole argument
Old Dec 26, 2009 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by enot767
g'night
Old Dec 26, 2009 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by enot767
g'night

LOL at this kid getting REALLLLL MAD because his civic has fake wheels.

bro....umad?



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