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Falken Ziex 512
3
10.34%
Nitto 450
9
31.03%
Kuhmo Ecsta Supra 712
10
34.48%
Yokohama ES 100
7
24.14%
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Old May 22, 2003 | 06:31 AM
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watch this eric...







ATTENTION DRAG VA MEMBERS!

you can now get V rated Kuhmo Ecsta Supra 712's for around $67 a tire on www.tirerack.com! Wow performance with a low price....






Now lets see how many people get 712's in the next few weeks. at least they're better than ventus... which means there still the natty ice of tires...
Old May 22, 2003 | 06:34 AM
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sorry to double post but the SHO has 5 'mounts', one front mount, two rears and two tranny mounts. They are sold in oem and tq limiting styles. unfourtunatley the Tq limiting ones are only available for 5-spds. guess they don't think 4 spd's are fast enough...
Old May 22, 2003 | 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by DoC-JoneS
which means there still the natty ice of tires...
HAHA! Awesome analogy. Guess I'll consider mine the Coronas. Just don't settle for anything less than Budweiser.
Old May 22, 2003 | 06:36 AM
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ok, skywalker, if you're talking about drag racing tires, then you may have a point about some of the tires that may choose. i look at tires for the performance that i get while taxing the hell out of the sidewalls as well as their ability to recover from standing water. i also look at Yokohama from the perspective of the race compound tires that i have raced on. i can also compare those to the BFG race compounds that i have raced on.

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Old May 22, 2003 | 06:39 AM
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thanx for all the help guys.

on the same note...

THIS IS MY DAMN THREAD SO IF YOUR GONNA GET IN AN ARGUMENT GO TO SPO OR PM. thank you for not thread jacking...

if tires were beer my current tires are like utah's version of light beer. you'd have better chance getting drunk from vanilla extract...
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true, sorry to thread jack. i think we just come from two different perspectives. i guess it's best to hear different angles.
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Originally posted by ToyotaTechGeek
ok, skywalker, if you're talking about drag racing tires, then you may have a point about some of the tires that may choose.
No, I was talking about street and high performance tires.
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i look at tires for the performance that i get while taxing the hell out of the sidewalls as well as their ability to recover from standing water.
Well then you should take a look at some of Yoko's newer selections, like the ES100's I've been speaking of. That's the reason I chose them.
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i also look at Yokohama from the perspective of the race compound tires that i have raced on.
I was only referring to street. I don't race. And I was under the impression that DOC was looking for performance street tires.
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i can also compare those to the BFG race compounds that i have raced on.
I cannot.
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you know for someone who doesn't fully understand chassis dynamics...
...you can finish your statement. I doubt you will hurt my feelings.
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Originally posted by DoC-JoneS
THIS IS MY DAMN THREAD SO IF YOUR GONNA GET IN AN ARGUMENT GO TO SPO OR PM. thank you for not thread jacking...
No problem; it's not my intention to argue here. I have enuff haters on this board. Just trying to give you the info you asked for. Go read the manufacturer's site for each tire you are considering. Don't base your decision solely on their info or on other people's opinions. Just try to get a feel for what's right for your needs.
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nah, no need, as he said, we've sort of thread jacked. i know that he was talking about street tires. he mentioned wanting the ability to autocross at some point. sidewall strength is an important factor here. i say drag racing tires cause compounds that would do better at that (in a street tire) don't necessarily do well in an autocross situation. oh! and the 712's don't do too poorly in a street-driven autocrosser. they're cheap and soft and do pretty well for themselves in a street tire class. i have driven on the ES tires...didn't like them much. didn't do much for me at the limits.
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Originally posted by ToyotaTechGeek
sidewall strength is an important factor here.
The reasons I decided to try the AVS ES100's:
- Long, continuous shoulder blocks reduce tread squirm and enhance stiffness delivering crisp sharp cornering.
- Extra strength sidewall inserts compliment the square casing design for responsive steering and greater control when cornering at high speeds.
- The unbroken center rib maintains continuous road control to enhance high-speed stability and traction, while helping reduce noise.
- AVS ES100's rim protector bar helps protect expensive wheels from pothole and curb damage **(a MUST if you live in DC / NoVA area).

There's much more (good details of all Yoko wheels) on their site www.yokohamatire.com
Originally posted by ToyotaTechGeek
i have driven on the ES tires...didn't like them much. didn't do much for me at the limits.
Well that explains your statement about Yokohama tires then. I personally think they are great tires, probably the best I've used so far. Guess I haven't experienced the array of elite tires that you have. So in your opinion, which tires would be superior?
You must go through alot of tires, as the ES100's are fairly new to the market.



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