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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:19 AM
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I don't know if you are old enough to remember the shuttle explosion, but I am. Thats why I don't want to store Hydrogen and Oxygen under pressure on the vehicle. So you can see why I need to be able to split water at the rate of demand for the engine. If we can solve that problem our oil crissis worries are over. we have every other piece of the puzzle figured out. Only thing left is to split water at the rate of demand. Now Chahonda is going to build a hydrogen booster to help increase his fuel economy. And he will be shocked by how much it helps. But my project delves deeper. I need to use straight tap water in an electrolizer, split it fast enough to be injested in the engine and fast enough to produce 1500 HP or more. My research has mentioned "cracking" water which is supposedly the answer. Problem is the person who claimed to have developed this is now dead. (Under strange circumstances). Two days after his passing someone broke into his workshop and took everything... Research paperwork, working prototypes and the car which was completed and had been demonstrated on TV using his technology.
lol im 34 so im old enough to remember it
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:22 AM
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Technically I'm an idiot for pics, drawings etc on the internet. But everything I have discussed is nothing more than a recreation of what I have found on the internet. Drawings, designs pics can be found everywhere. Do a Google search for Stan Meyer, Browns Gas, Water Car etc..The electrolizer is a simply two anodes submerged in water with a catalyst. 2 volts DC curent is passed between the anodes. The water bubbles, and the resulting gas gererated is Hydrogen and Oxygen. Keeping the electrolizer sealed allows you to bleed off the resulting gas and feed it to the engine. Increasing the surface area of your anodes and using pulsed voltage dramaticly increases the gas output. However this design works well for low demand fuel requirements. My hope is for huge demand load gas production, so I can achieve the required HP I need for the 6 second pass. Please don't think that I am claiming to have developed any of this on my own, everything I have discussed so far has been gleaned from internet research. My hope is to find someone who can give me the key to my final question, splitting water, then I can build the car.
instead of 2 volts.... cant you up the voltage to speed up the gas production. like use the tps as a signal to send more voltage to the electrolizer in relation to the demand of the engine? a tps puts out about 5 volts at wot. man i need to do some experimenting!
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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A tps doesn't work like that. The tps has an input reference voltage sent to it of 5 volts. This is the maximum it sends back to the ecu at wide open throttle. If it had a 12 volt input reference it could send a 12 volt maximum signal back. But wouldn't last very long. 5 volts seems to be the universal voltage adopted by all of the auto manufacturers. But getting back to your question. All setups work differently but mine seemed to mirror what I found in my research. 2 to 2.5 volts and pulsing the voltage yealds the most gas production. higher voltage only served to heat up the water in the electrolizer at a fast rate. This reduces the gas output. you are wasting electricity heating the water, not using it to split it.
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:42 AM
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A tps doesn't work like that. The tps has an input reference voltage sent to it of 5 volts. This is the maximum it sends back to the ecu at wide open throttle. If it had a 12 volt input reference it could send a 12 volt maximum signal back. But wouldn't last very long. 5 volts seems to be the universal voltage adopted by all of the auto manufacturers. But getting back to your question. All setups work differently but mine seemed to mirror what I found in my research. 2 to 2.5 volts and pulsing the voltage yealds the most gas production. higher voltage only served to heat up the water in the electrolizer at a fast rate. This reduces the gas output. you are wasting electricity heating the water, not using it to split it.
what were you using to pulse the voltage?
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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A cheep azzed electronic dimmer switch like you would use in a camping trailer to dim your lights. it cost me like 30 bucks for a good one online. Remember DC voltage dimmer not ac voltage. AC may work but didn't try it. I went with what was recomended to me.
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:52 AM
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And transformer from an old train set to make my DC current AND control the voltage. That made it a cake walk to play with my settings. used my hand held MAC digital meter to monitor the voltage.
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A cheep azzed electronic dimmer switch like you would use in a camping trailer to dim your lights. it cost me like 30 bucks for a good one online. Remember DC voltage dimmer not ac voltage. AC may work but didn't try it. I went with what was recomended to me.
well i think ill get a light dimmer switch at home depot and see how that works
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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should be fairly easy. ill mark on the switch the voltages like a dial. that way it will make it much easier instead of having to keep my multi meter hooked up to it.
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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i have no clue how old this is, but have you guys seen it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX6CnNc3CFU

good luck regardless



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