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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 05:47 AM
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Spic, I accept your argument for sure, but offer you this to consider:

Is a '68 Camaro considered a Muscle Car? The stock 302 that came in it wasn't making 12's I guarantee that. Also the first few years of the CORVETTE...they were sloths! But they are considered "muscle cars".
Old Oct 27, 2003 | 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by MerF
Spic, I accept your argument for sure, but offer you this to consider:

Is a '68 Camaro considered a Muscle Car? The stock 302 that came in it wasn't making 12's I guarantee that. Also the first few years of the CORVETTE...they were sloths! But they are considered "muscle cars".


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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by MerF
Is a '68 Camaro considered a Muscle Car? The stock 302 that came in it wasn't making 12's I guarantee that. Also the first few years of the CORVETTE...they were sloths! But they are considered "muscle cars".
I have always considered the SB camaro's and the corvettes to be more sports car than muscle car, they were by no means destined for a drag strip.

and the stock 302 in them camaro's was estimated at 350hp, i'm sure it was faster than a marauder. it's one of the nicest small blocks chevy's ever built.

i don't know when they began to offer the 305, but yes, it was by no means a powerful engine.
Old Oct 27, 2003 | 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by MerF
Really, I'm curious why the 94-96 Impala SS can't be considered a muscle car? It's a new verion of a great old thing. A hoopty with a big V-8, and don't deny that the LT-1 isn't a big enough V-8. Just as much potential as the old skool BB's...
The late model Impala's are tanks. The iron headed LT1 in those cars were very underpowered also. They are cool cars, but by no means are they "muscle cars".

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305, but we all understand what your saying
You obviously have no clue wtf you are talking about either. Can you tell me when the first 305 came out?

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Is a '68 Camaro considered a Muscle Car? The stock 302 that came in it wasn't making 12's I guarantee that. Also the first few years of the CORVETTE...they were sloths! But they are considered "muscle cars".
The 302 was only available in the Z/28. From there the 327, the 350, and a couple differently rated 396's. The 302 and the 327 were close HP wise, and would both run some low 13's or high 12's off the showroom floor with polyglas tires. The 396's would run low 12's and upper 11's with polyglas tires.
Old Oct 27, 2003 | 11:28 AM
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my bad, when did the 305 come out in a camaro then.
Old Oct 27, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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305 was produced in 76'. In 68' the Z/28 had the 302, or the regular coupe came with the 307.
Old Oct 27, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by blasko
and i thought the marauder has a 5.0

the stock grand marquis has a 4.6, my grandma has one.
The Marauders feature the 4.6l V-8 out of the older body style Cobra, which is being offered at the moment in the maruader, the aviator and the mach 1 mustang. it put out 302 hp. tha last ford vehicle to carry a 5.0l was the 96-97 Explorer eddie bauer or limited. mustang's switched to the 4.6l in 95.

as for the impalla being a muscle car, maybe not. as for it being slow not really. some people point out it's stock 0-60 and 1/4 mile times are somewhat slow. so were the times for the honda civic hatch, S-14, gti and GS-R. the LT-1 while being a haevy engine did produce alot of possibilities for the 94-96 SS impalla. figure mod for mod they'd be about a second slower per mod than their f-bodied counterparts. which means there'd be pleanty of 12-13 sec SS's out there (which there are). as for the marauder i've seen the kenny brown kit for it (car & driver this spring) which adds a little blower action to it and it had no problem throwing down 453rwhp, along with a 13.6 1/4 mile pass. not too bad for a big ol merc...

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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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I've seen a dyno vid of an 800hp Impala SS. Muscle car or not they can run with the right mods.
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Take it for what you want, the 90's edition of the Impala SS is not a muscle car. Nor is the Mercury Marauder. And for everyone arguing about how fast they can be: do you also call Civics muscle cars? No, and I arrest my case.
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Originally posted by SignfcntOthr
And for everyone arguing about how fast they can be: do you also call Civics muscle cars? No, and I arrest my case.
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