Since most of our turbo vehicles are also AWD we usually do really damned well in the 1/8th. I am up for either one personally. As for N2O use, that may give you the win but I don't consider it bad, its just not what I do. I am building the car for 93 octane and a full street setup, no real interest in what it "could" do with the seats out, 110 octane, and a shot of nitrous. But be that as it may, I will give the best run I can for the honor of my car club members and probably do 110 octane for this event. -Ian

 

how bout a new rule: pump gas only

then we'll see who comes out ahead

you can't compare your times to me and Ian. you ran race gas. we run pump only.

 

they exist?

 

I don't know... Where are they?

J/K -Ian

 

Yep they exist right here. I meant other than me their seems to be no fast hondas on this site. I guess I will race the DSMs

 

Cause Dave is REALLY picky about what he considers a street car. I know he'd find some excuse just as I would if I lost to ya and you were spraying. I know he'll want us to run with 93oct and no nitrous before he'll admit our times as being officially the faster street car. O well. IMO if everyone uses 116oct etc then why not go ahead and use it? Its so much more fun using it and if the playing field is leveled then it isnt cheating

 

I ran an 8.3 in 85* humid heat this past summer in the 1/8th all on 93oct. Marshall ran what? and 8.1 without nitrous? I dont know what octane you used, I think it was 100 if I remember right. Anyway, I know either one of us at this very moment would obviously beat both of ya and you know it. Now Ian's car I give major major respect as I told you because I know the potential that car has to be great, but as of right now thats all it is, just potential. The EMS still isnt in, still running stock injectors, still pushing stock turbo etc. Like I said, get everything on and tuned and maybe a few more parts and I think Marshall might just have some competition if Ian gets the act together. As for me, we'll see, as I said perhaps I'll have a few tricks up my sleeve.

 

You gonna ditch those steelies? Street tires?

 

i say race it as you drive it every day if you want it to be a street car. it's not a street car if you're running better than pump gas, unless you run 100 or whatever EVERY DAY. nitrous i won't bitch about, as that is fully streetable, while not legal, it is easily used on the street, and it's on your car every day, just like the rest of the car. i personally will refuse to race anything on slicks unless it's the same weight or heavier. slicks are not street tires, so you are not a street car when you run slicks.

that is my opinion, take it as you will, but it makes perfect sense to me. if anyone wants to run slicks by all means go ahead. but you're going to also add bricks in the trunk until it's the same weight as my car.

 

preparing for rant mode...

i get so annoyed when people call (or insinuate) things like nitrous and race gas are cheating. that makes no sense. what if i pulled the turbo off my car and then ran only nitrous, would it still be cheating? what if i ran race gas all the time? then would i have to drain my tank at the track and put in 93?

after switching from hondas to dsms a few years ago, the first thing i noticed was that everyone wanted to have the fastest dsm with a stock turbo, stock IC, stock injectors, on pump gas, blah blah blah. knowing full well they could go faster if they did things differently. it seems like people aren't into going fast as much as being known as the "fastest FWD 2G with stock downpipe and 3 people and a pack gummi worms in the car" or similar type scenarios...

if anyone wants to race me at the track, they can be absolutely sure that i'm going to be running a lot of boost, a lot of nitrous, and a lot of 110 octane.

so chris, what's the big secret? if it's anything less than a 60-1/T4 i'm going to be quite disappointed.

marshall