what about the weight of cars. the greatest thing about the civic hatchback was how light it was. i don't seen any company designing light weight vehicles. i read something in SCC a while ago that went along the lines of "making a car heavy is to help it be safe in an accident, but making a car lightweight is to help it avoid the accident in the first place."

 

.02...Car makers are about money. If performance oriented cars were more profitable then they would be more apt to make them. Unfortunately I don't see that happening. I think the average import car will remain just that...average. Sure STI's, EVOs, 350z will all come out. But we all know what happens. They come here the price inflates then the sales numbers drop and its back to square one. The average import inthusiasts does not run out and spend $30,000+ dollars on an import. Therefore, import manufactures don't bring them over. Economy cars with some pep sell. Japanese automakes will cater to their pockets. Import enthusiasts do not drive import auto sales. Here is something to ponder...How many of you bought BRAND NEW performance oriented imports? Now how many of you bought USED import and then decided to modify them? I'm sure more of you chose the later. The later does not help sell import performance sales. Thats NOT to say I wouldn't like to see more perfomance oriented imports. I just feel it is wishful thinking.

 

very good point made there 94supraTT. most of us would just be happy if they gave us a good platform to work with. you are right about the sales thing. it's what it's all about. that's where i think a lot of the domestics go wrong is they focus on profits, making cars out of cheap stuff and selling it, where as imports (well, at least honda) make a good quality car that's gonna last a while, but they sell it new for a little bit more, but it will be on the road a good while longer.

for every domestic guy who's gonna reply to that......yes, if you take care of the car, it will last long also, it's just a generalization. of course, i don't think i've ever seen a cracked dash on a honda, heh. i've seen 'em in a few fords

 

oh, god, please no.

i would like to see more drift events, especially in the east coast, but if drifting becomes mainstream you should all fear for your lives.

i already know one kid who attempted to drift in a ford escort...but then again i live in Lynchburg, home of the 14 second escort and speed racer himself.

 

yeah, that would scary b/c instead of all the ricers trying to be cool dragging and the street, they would try to be cool be drifting everywhere on the street, which would mean more accidents/deaths and more negative light on the import scene. god, please, no.

 

What about that new Saturn comming out....Like Whoa......300 hp put to the ground stock from a turbo 4.......and surprisingly its the same 1.9 that came in the later SC2's .....I do believe domestics are starting to step up....They have to after being pummeled by world wide publications such as SCC and super street magazines.....But i really do think domestics are on there way.....

 

Well we all know im not a domestic guy but hell i drive a car that is almost a classic (3 more years) and its not a Honda, as far as honda goes its all in how you take care of your car Hondas are just as destructable as the rest, I know Dave that you like honda and im not a huge fan of them but in light of all this info. you can only make an opinion on what youve seen not what the general rule of thumb is (That hondas last forever) Honda owners pay more for a car that they take care of better just because they paid more for it......Hell I could take a Hyundai and make it run and look like brand new for 10 years if i wanted to but why should I Hyundai untill lately has been the KIA of imports, its a throw away car you buy it for 5000 dollars it breaks you throw it away and buy a new one........JMO though.....

 

my parents had nothing but domestics growing up. all i can remember is problems w/ them. and i dunno what it is w/ the smell of fords in the interior. i think it's something in the oil of the vinyl. my mom's van had it and my girlfriend's car has it. it makes me feel car sick, and i'm not a motion sick person. i dunno. but anyways, back on topic.....

true to keeping your car up to par, a guy i know (and some of you probably do) josh meekins had a early nighties mustage 5.0. if you didn't know better, you would think it just rolled off the lot. it was in perfect condition and actually loved that car. i never got a chance to see what it could do, but i'm sure it was fast. i guess i'd have more respect for the domestics if ppl would keep them in good condition.

 

Okay i know i must be an idiot for asking this question and i am sorry for wasting your time i was just wondering what the hell is drifting.

 

the car scene is at a good point right now, its all about having a clean, simple... FAST car. body kits and wild paint jobs are becoming a thing of the past, or "rice" as we like to call it. i like where were at right now. clean, Fast cars is where its at. who the fuck cares if its Mazda, nissan, toyota, vw, ford, chevy... well if u get a honda atleast its going to last JK, its about having an overall good package right now.