but gloves, boots, etc. isn't what is in question, helmets were, and no i don't wear full leathers everytime i ride, what is the relevence in that question to what i was talking about?

someone please give me a good reason as to why you shouldn't be forced to wear helmets? thats all i want and i'll shut up

 

A helmet is there to (supposedly) protect you from death right? That is the common theory?








................................so you can't die while wearing a helmet? FAR from the truth. My point is this: you can die from having your spine broken if you don't have a back protector. Or get paralyzed. So why keep it JUST at helmets only?

The military already enforces boots, gloves, long sleeve shirts and bright clothing in addition to helmets. Why doesn't every state just adopt that rule?

If you don't let people decide for themselves what they choose to do to protect themselves from "possible" injuries than you're not letting them be the decision makers. Why stop at helmets?

You did read my whole post about seatbelt laws and bicycle helmet laws right? Those are relatively new. If you don't think that in 20 years or more that there will be even MORE stringent rules regarding these things then you really need to open your eyes.

There are but a few states that still hold onto the no helmet ruling, and I think more need to adopt it.

 

whats with all of the quotation marks, it sounds like you think motorcycle injuries are just a conspirecy made up by the government... my old helmet has massive gashes and chunks out of it from a 40mph crash, i have a friend who is now semi-retarded from a 20 mph wreck when her helmet popped off, another friend who usually always wore a helmet was cruising the strip at beach week with no helmet on because she figured if your only going like 15 mph whats the harm

i never said your invincible with a helmet on, of course you can still die, thats common sense... with no statistical evidence to back me up i'm going to go ahead and say a helmet is the most important part of safety gear, so there for until all 50 states have a mandatory helmet law it wouldn't make sense to move onto lesser things like back protectors and jackets, so thats why i'm not talking about them

but like i said, someone just give me one good reason why people should be allowed to choose to ride with out a helmet... in my opinion there are some things so stupid that without a law people would do anyways... don't you think there is a reason why bicycle and motorcycle laws are getting more stringent? i don't think its any government conspiracy to try and control our lives, so i don't see why people get so offended by it like they were trying to take our guns away

 

I'll keep it simple this time; as you obviously don't even care to understand my point here.

It should be a riders choice as to wether or not they want to protect themselves from a possibly fatal head injury if they're not wearing a helmet.

If you don't agree you don't agree.

 

I see both your points in the example of the seatbelt law alone.

Why are we required to wear a safety belt in cars? Because "statistics" show that (and im just spitting off the top of my head what im pretty sure is right) that 60% of accidents where the occupents wore a safety belt sustained less injury. However, even though its a law, people still dont follow through with it. Therefore, anyone can make the choice of riding a bike without a helmet, its a question of getting caught.

Right now, the law says you have to wear a helmet. When it no longer says this, then people who dont want to wear a helmet wont--and they will do it without fear of being prosecuted.

Whether the law says so or not, you will always HAVE "the choice" in wearing the helmet or not. But to what end you choose will decide whether: You die of head injury or are prosecuted in court (if current law stands).

Now, those who wear seat belts and get it wrecks live, while those who dont die. (IN MOST CASES). Most motorcyclists who wear helmets live, while those without stand a snowballs chance in hell of living (and no it doesnt depend on speeds, because a person could fall out of bed, hit there head and die). Does the person in bed wear a helmet, no. Is he required to, no. However the statistics for people hitting their head while getting out of bed is little to none, so there is no law requiring the use of a helmet during sleep.

I agree with Bret, whether required or not, what good reason is there not to wear a helmet? We are in a risky sport that requires more work from our noggin than anything else on/in our body (you couldnt move your feet or hands without that brain). So knowing all that, why wouldnt you protect something that fragile, that is vitally important to how you function as a human being? The brain is definately the one part of the body that is absolutely unrepairable (even the spine isnt, but there are cases where there has been some success in repirations to it), thus the one GOOD reason why I can see the law existing. It takes 15 seconds at the most to put on, thats why it should be mandatory. People who bitch about the right to wear one are just trying to bitch really. I have the right to take a shit in my pants, but do I? No. I use the bathroom, the place intended for shits and pissess to be taken and properly discarded. I dont have the right to not wear a helmet because THE MAN thinks that me deciding not to wear one is about as smart as me taking a shit in my pants when clearly I had the option (the more productive, logical, and intelligent option) of using the bathroom.

 

I think you should wear a helmet all the time. Although I don't ride a bike, I would if I did. I have scars around my eyes from being thrown off a car (long story...) at only 20mph. Yeah, it sucks and if I had had a helmet on, I would have been okay considering most of my injurues were on my face. Plus I got knocked out, ripped my eyelid almost off, tore like half the skin on my face off. It was a beatiful sight, and I couldn't work for 2 weeks until I was good enough to even have my face exposed to the sun. From my personal experience with hitting the asphalt at a low speed, I would definitely wear a helmet. It's your choice, but do you want to die or be scarred? Plus even if you are going a slow speed - what if another car hits you?? You can't control that. You'd be thrown with the bike (or off it) and take impact. People don't always consider that case scenario...

 

HAHAHAHAHAH that is the quote of the year, you summed it all up right there

 

its not that i don't care to understand, its that you haven't said anything to make me understand, because i honestly don't understand why anyone would want to not wear a helmet, but even more so i don't understand why it should be a right... so far the only answer i've gotten is "because"

 

wear your helmet..i wrecked in myrtle beach this year going 15 mph rear ended my buddy flew me over the handle bars my head and sholder hit 1st broke my collar bone and fractred the whole side of my head i lost 2 months of my memory...i can tell u this story from my freinds telling me....i went into shock and had spinal fuild coming out of my ear...the fracture went trough my ear and ive lost 90% of my hearing in that ear...and 3 of the 4 docs told my freinds i wouldnt make it because of swelling of my brain against my skull. but 2 weeks in the hospital and 30 grand later in here and still draggin the bike....with all proper saftey gear... i was the guy thinkin man it feels so good to not have a helmet on and wouldnt think going 15 mph wouldnt kill..but ya never kno

 

So following that logic why shouldn't car drivers wear one ?

They can have nasty head injuries too.

I wear a helmet because I make the choice, however if I want to not wear one it should be my right.

I am correct that is it MY life to use and abuse, correct ?

Just like someone who eats, drinks, smokes or exercises themself to death, its all the same.

Life is the time between our birth and inevitable death, it should MY choice how I use up that time in between as long as I am not messing up other peoples lives.

If you or I want to take more personal risk then so be it, it isnt for someone else to decide unless they are going to stop the overeating, drinking, smoking and overexercising etc.

It's about personal freedom to live as you want to.