ill be buying one

 

I don't agree, people will definitely buy this car. It just has to be marketed correctly, because all the ricers that know what they are won't be able to afford one.

And yes, the Skyline Z-Tune is a beast! 500hp and does 10s in the quarter mile stock... if you can call a Z-Tune stock. Only production car (excluding the Bugatti Veyron and some factory tuned muscle cars) to do 10s in the quarter mile from the factory. And with half the HP a Veyron.

 

Although entertaining to read it hardly covers the whole aspect of car buying. You know the E46 Fanatics board for example has a seriuos problem for accepting that the M3 is not the end all fast car on the street. Once someone points out that the M3 lacks the ability to even compete mod for mod and dollar for dollar while doing so, the first retort comes out........ "Well I will pick up more chicks then the guy driving ___________, will ever dream of, and they will all look like supermodels compared to the trailer trash that your car will draw"...... Makes me laugh everytime, because my personal experience has always been women that notice a man for the appearance of his car are few and far between, women that even know the difference between a typical 330 coupe and and an M3 are even rarer in existance.
I just keep trying to point out if you purchased an M3 for drag racing on the street including highway rolls, then you purchased the wrong platform from the begining. Of course you get the ever infamous reply of "well lets see how it does on turns". Primarily in my 19 years of real world driving experience, and the many times I have raced while traveling on Americas many roadways in many cities. I can not once ever remember, two lanes going the same direction into hair pin or sweeping down hill turns, and this includes the great mountains of the east and west. Throw in traffic and well it obviuosly makes "racing" in such circumstance pretty much suicide in a blind turn.
The reality of it is you get what you paid for, and if you are buying performance well it better have enough or be easly upgraded, and for reasonable costs. If not, then you purchased a nice car that is probably well rounded, and is not just the best in one specific application. The problem is, you can either be fast, or have great driveability, or do so economically, but your not going to do all without sacrificing one of the three aspects. I have yet to see a Euro come close to performance for dollar, and I will not even travel down the road of aftermarket, a typical S/C install runs two to three times as much as a domestic install...... and yet it produces half the performance gain possible. I have yet to see or experience a Euro stay with my "mullet mobile", but I have yet to ever drive a domestic that even drives as nicely as my Euro.

 

people with money do strange things with it. imo the gtr coming here is in perfect time... just think about it... the target audience for the gtr would likely be exactly where i myself would be falling in... mid-late 20's, when i was 16-20 i was fantasizing about nissan bringing the gtr to the states when there was no way in hell i could afford one, and now by the time it gets here in 09 i just might.

although with a sticker over 100k i highly doubt they'll sell shit. come on now. that's encroaching on exotic territory, and even with my 'ricer' mentality there's no way in hell i'd choose a nissan over a ferrari, porsche, or lamborghini. sorry. i hope someone in the higher eschelon of nissan marketing realizes that.

i'm thinking it will fall somewhere in the 60-70 range, right next to the m3 and z06.

 

Because like I said, its comprable to a few tenths of a second, which while it is a "long time", its also the difference between two excellent laps, with one being slightly better than the other. Think of it as a ripple effect, one small tiny little mishap on turn 1 can cause the car to lose an entire 5 seconds by the end of the race since the course is sooo long.

 

anyone who has played gt4 for an extended period of time could attest to this.

 

thats basically what i was trying to say :T after a point, trimming 5 seconds off a time can seem almost impossible.

so very true.

 

Great post, Bake. I agree with everything you just wrote.

 

and losing 5 seconds would seem almost too easy...

Humans aren't robots, even professional racers aren't PERFECTLY consistant..

 

Don't you hate when you're like .005 away from the Gold medal and you just can't get it