Edmunds: 09 Nissan GTR vs 08 911 TT
awd Audi was able to beat out its lighter more powerful rear wheel drive competition on ten different circuits
My response:
"Considering the time line and other factors for those teams they did not come up with the best solution to make the best of it."
They had no means to come up with a good effort to compete against the AUDI and or the BMW's for that matter. These cars had more to them then a production version. The trim in which these cars showed up were not production specs. The Audi for example was a 2.1 liter engine it had to be reduced to a 2.0 liter variant in order to compete. The BMW M3 was simialr it had to be destroked from a 2.3 to a 2.0 in order to compete. None of these cars were simialr to their production varaints, and therefore the competition had way of knowing what to expect during that season. I made no reference to AUDI having RWD. You just assumed that.
Further that is why I found it dumb to even compare a race car that was built to meet homologation rules to a production model that was the whole basis of that paragraph. But unfortunetly you cannot understand writing.
Many times i warned you to search before you post. To help you from making yourself look like an idiot by posting 4wd systems in a comparison against AWD's. Its like comparing FWD-RWD just because they're both drivin with two wheels, apples and oranges.
I also find it hilarious that you never answered my question. Pretending to be oblivious to the facts only makes you look dumber
awd Audi was able to beat out its lighter more powerful rear wheel drive competition on ten different circuits
My response:
"Considering the time line and other factors for those teams they did not come up with the best solution to make the best of it."
I answered your question, several times,
My response:
"Considering the time line and other factors for those teams they did not come up with the best solution to make the best of it."
I answered your question, several times,
Do you really think that if one of the circuits for BTCC was nurburgring the outcome would be any different? are you saying that even though the heavier, underpowered, awd Audi was able to beat out its lighter more powerful rear wheel drive competition on ten different circuits through engineering, that this would be any different if The Ring was added?
On a side note im really starting to think this has nothing to do with whether or not an Advanced AWD system thats in the GTR would be better off ditched in favor of a RWD lighter version. I really think it has something to do with my original comment
maybe your just a muscle car fan and you feel i am insulting your heritage?
maybe your just a muscle car fan and you feel i am insulting your heritage?
second question or better yet a statement followed by a question. In the late 80's Audi entered the British touring car championship with there new quattro(torque sensing) all wheel drive system similar to the ATTESSA. Audi despite having less power and more weight demolished its competition and later it was banned with the excuse of them having an "unfair advantage"
Question: do you think that since their AWD platform was banned they decided to come back with a RWD (therefore lighter) "and supposedly faster" version and defeat the competition even easier or did they go a different route?
You still asked about their banned AWD that defeated the competition and if then asked with "OR" did they come back with a different route. I cannot help it if you cannot write what you are thinking, and then cannot remember how you phrased it. It truly is astonishing that you even say second question and then rephrase it as a statement, then write it again in the question right below it. You are truly confusing yourself. Your brilliance is a shining example.... really!
On a side note im really starting to think this has nothing to do with whether or not an Advanced AWD system thats in the GTR would be better off ditched in favor of a RWD lighter version. I really think it has something to do with my original comment
maybe your just a muscle car fan and you feel i am insulting your heritage?
maybe your just a muscle car fan and you feel i am insulting your heritage?
Post 1
Post 2 where you quoted me but didnt even answer the question you quoted!???
POST 3 I quoted the question again and wondered where the answer went?
POST 4
is some lame attempt to "say" you answered my question by answering a question(which you didnt even really answer but ill let it slide so we can move forward) that was asked almost two days ago!
OMG POST 5
is me making fun of you for a statement that you posted(as a statement) and you doing exactly what i said by not answering the question. Then i posted the question AGAIN!!
POST 6 Bwahahahaha
You go right back to the question from two days ago all the while ignoring the question thats been posted FIVE!! times since then
Then you go further with the classic writing insult, not realizing that the paragraph in itself is a grammatical disaster, maybe by the time this is done ill inject some knowledge into that limited brain of yours......
meh... on second thought that might be to hard of a task for even me to handle, so ill adopt a more realistic goal of being able to post every single smily that vadriven has before this debate is over LOL!! thirty more to go!!!!(your boring me step it up...)
Do you really think that if one of the circuits for BTCC was nurburgring the outcome would be any different? are you saying that even though the heavier, underpowered, awd Audi was able to beat out its lighter more powerful rear wheel drive competition on ten different circuits through engineering, that this would be any different if The Ring was added?
Please answer this because im very curious to know how your gonna explain that away. Maybe you'll just ignore them all together and go back into constant bickering
Please answer this because im very curious to know how your gonna explain that away. Maybe you'll just ignore them all together and go back into constant bickering
Do you really think that if one of the circuits for BTCC was nurburgring the outcome would be any different? are you saying that even though the heavier, underpowered, awd Audi was able to beat out its lighter more powerful rear wheel drive competition on ten different circuits through engineering, that this would be any different if The Ring was added?
Do you really think that if one of the circuits for BTCC was nurburgring the outcome would be any different? are you saying that even though the heavier, underpowered, awd Audi was able to beat out its lighter more powerful rear wheel drive competition on ten different circuits through engineering, that this would be any different if The Ring was added?
Please answer this because im very curious to know how your gonna explain that away. Maybe you'll just ignore them all together and go back into constant bickering
Please answer this because im very curious to know how your gonna explain that away. Maybe you'll just ignore them all together and go back into constant bickering
is some lame attempt to "say" you answered my question by answering a question(which you didnt even really answer but ill let it slide so we can move forward) that was asked almost two days ago!I answered your question in reference to them being banned for an unfair advantage in comparison to other teams.
awd Audi was able to beat out its lighter more powerful rear wheel drive competition on ten different circuits
My response:
"Considering the time line and other factors for those teams they did not come up with the best solution to make the best of it."
awd Audi was able to beat out its lighter more powerful rear wheel drive competition on ten different circuits
My response:
"Considering the time line and other factors for those teams they did not come up with the best solution to make the best of it."
is me making fun of you for a statement that you posted(as a statement) and you doing exactly what i said by not answering the question. Then i posted the question AGAIN!!Do you really think that if one of the circuits for BTCC was nurburgring the outcome would be any different? are you saying that even though the heavier, underpowered, awd Audi was able to beat out its lighter more powerful rear wheel drive competition on ten different circuits through engineering, that this would be any different if The Ring was added?
Please answer this because im very curious to know how your gonna explain that away. Maybe you'll just ignore them all together and go back into constant bickering
Please answer this because im very curious to know how your gonna explain that away. Maybe you'll just ignore them all together and go back into constant bickering
You go right back to the question from two days ago all the while ignoring the question thats been posted FIVE!! times since then No you rephrased as another question...
Question: do you think that since their AWD platform was banned they decided to come back with a RWD (therefore lighter) "and supposedly faster" version and defeat the competition even easier or did they go a different route?
You still asked about their banned AWD that defeated the competition and if then asked with "OR" did they come back with a different route. I cannot help it if you cannot write what you are thinking, and then cannot remember how you phrased it. It truly is astonishing that you even say second question and then rephrase it as a statement, then write it again in the question right below it. You are truly confusing yourself. Your brilliance is a shining example.... really!
Question: do you think that since their AWD platform was banned they decided to come back with a RWD (therefore lighter) "and supposedly faster" version and defeat the competition even easier or did they go a different route?
You still asked about their banned AWD that defeated the competition and if then asked with "OR" did they come back with a different route. I cannot help it if you cannot write what you are thinking, and then cannot remember how you phrased it. It truly is astonishing that you even say second question and then rephrase it as a statement, then write it again in the question right below it. You are truly confusing yourself. Your brilliance is a shining example.... really!

meh... on second thought that might be to hard of a task for even me to handle, so ill adopt a more realistic goal of being able to post every single smily that vadriven has before this debate is over LOL!! thirty more to go!!!!(your boring me step it up...)

Jesus Bake.... You'll turn anything into a "why F-bodies are the greatest" discussion won't you?
This thread started out as eye candy about a new, very fast, very exclusive, quasi-supercar Mercedes. And somehow you fit non-rattling F-body interiors and cracking BMW subframes into the discussion.
This thread started out as eye candy about a new, very fast, very exclusive, quasi-supercar Mercedes. And somehow you fit non-rattling F-body interiors and cracking BMW subframes into the discussion.
They have been pulling in external sources lately to help in certain areas. Unfortunately with the Vette, the only concern seems to be the interior for the popped collar fags. Way to ruin a sports car you metrosexual bitches! But at least the other cars in the line are benefiting in performance areas. In 2008 you can get more performance everywhere but the Vette, but you can get a Mercedes designed interior to make the Euro crowd happy.
And Honduhs are for Fillipinos that think a 3inch exhaust tip warrants a 15 rwhp increase over stock, while planning on moving in more family in their three bedroom home that already occupies 14 people and their freezer full of fish heads. Does anybody crave dog right now?
Well that was an interesting read, nothing like a bunch of retards believing in a "newer" technology being better than "ancient" technology. If you own a stock AWD car and go to the track be prepared to be disappointed, even a stock F-body will out 60ft an AWD car by a couple of tenths. The bottom line is AWD does not offer any advantage, at any level, over RWD at a drag racing track.

NO im not making assumptions, YOU ARE A MUSCLE CAR FAN! dont deny your heritage embrace it! What a tool....
It is like I thought you have nothing left so now you want to back track, nice try, play again sometime when you have a clue and do not make such a stupid statement about lighter cars not being faster around the track.
Last edited by BigBake; Dec 20, 2007 at 02:23 AM.
Your idiot ass cannot even grasp the last one because it was a drag racing discussion in which an individual made s tupid claim much like yours, that somehow RWD is inferior on the street compared to AWD from a stop light.... OHHH MY GAWD they brought up drag racing, not me. See how that works. Don't deny your an idiot, and embrace your new title! Dumbass!





