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According to Corey, the hydra still allows close/open loop cycles, and a few others things that the AEM dont.
Ill be going with an AEM when this motor comes out though cuz the hydra is expensive.
The AEM will only do closed loop tuning. If you go for the wide band option with the Hydra it can do open and closed loop. This makes the Hydra cost $500+ over the AEM EMS. The Hydra is also not nearly as user friendly for the tuners. When the AEM EMS was released many big name tuners were ecstatic. They were sick of waiting for Hydra units, dealing with the updates and the general issues with tuning the cars. It was the best option for sure, but there are others available now. If you go 30R or bigger you'll want to get rid of the MAF, IMO, so some sort of standalone like this is a must.
Agreed. Don't do Access Port. I'm 150% certain my engine FAILURE was from the OTS Cobb map. Most powerful map Kienan had ever seen and then, boom.
I was always under the impression that Cobb's OTS maps are still very conservative, running on the rich side, and not-so-aggressive timing. Is this not so? What about Perrin maps on the AP? Are those deemed safe?
You don't have to do OTS maps with the accessport......you can still get a protune. It might not be the best EM out there but for the money I love it and have been running on my TDC tune for over a year now
whatever catback you like the looks/sound of (I like Tanabe)
UTEC (Kienan can tune it locally)
GT Spec under braces (all of 'em)
Yup, there are others... I was throwing a quick list for him as I may've read earlier in the thread he wasn't throwing too much money at it yet. The Whiteline front sway bar seemed larger than the Cobb front, except for the rear IIRC. Snapped a shit ton of OE end links though, so the upgraded ones is an excellent idea.
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I was always under the impression that Cobb's OTS maps are still very conservative, running on the rich side, and not-so-aggressive timing. Is this not so? What about Perrin maps on the AP? Are those deemed safe?
The maps are supposed to be conservative because they're generic to be used by people all over the world. They're supposed to be conservative to the point that someone who lives in death valley, CA can run the same map as someone who lives in Alaska. I think my map was fairly aggressive for OTS. It made more power than kienan had ever seen, from an OTS map, on his dyno - and that was in the summer with a stock STi TMIC.
However, like billy said, the Access Port is a great product. It's easy to use and is very versitile. It works as a code reader and can read/output lots of information from the factory sensors. I just wouldn't run one without getting pro-tuned.
we did the brake pads yesterday on the thing and it was a pain in the ass- apparently the pads have never been replaced... they didn't look too bad except the left side having pretty much nothing left.
I think at this point the first "mod" is just wheels. The tires are sliiightly stretched on the stock rims...and they are noisey as ever.