Spec V Owners..
Originally posted by SERious
I wasn't saying anything other than that comment wasnt funny or called for. We know the car is slow. Just dont need to hear it everyday.
and what exactly did i ask you to help me setup? maybe you have me confused with someone else.
I don't have any plans for my car besides maybe an autox.
I wasn't saying anything other than that comment wasnt funny or called for. We know the car is slow. Just dont need to hear it everyday.
and what exactly did i ask you to help me setup? maybe you have me confused with someone else.
I don't have any plans for my car besides maybe an autox.
Originally posted by Shinobi
OK info from Nismo pre tunning Dyno, As for the engine codes if you read correctly you would see I said Enthusiast refer to the differences in parts in the engine if i really need to go that far....as the base= QR25b (Enthusiast) get it now? anyone that has responded this can act like you know nissan but when it comes to it your still learnin sorry to bash you all but you brought it on yourselves no hard feelins and the 3% drivetrain loss is from SE-R to Spec-V not literall specifics from car to pavement, compare the drive train loss from a Civic EX to a SE-R and you only get a %age of 4&1/2 percent loss....Its kind of like a learning curve which we have now shown is not applicable in this thread......Sorry for boggling whatever you thought you knew about your motor but i was driving this car before most of you thought about owning it......
OK info from Nismo pre tunning Dyno, As for the engine codes if you read correctly you would see I said Enthusiast refer to the differences in parts in the engine if i really need to go that far....as the base= QR25b (Enthusiast) get it now? anyone that has responded this can act like you know nissan but when it comes to it your still learnin sorry to bash you all but you brought it on yourselves no hard feelins and the 3% drivetrain loss is from SE-R to Spec-V not literall specifics from car to pavement, compare the drive train loss from a Civic EX to a SE-R and you only get a %age of 4&1/2 percent loss....Its kind of like a learning curve which we have now shown is not applicable in this thread......Sorry for boggling whatever you thought you knew about your motor but i was driving this car before most of you thought about owning it......
I read a couple sentences and just feel lost.Edit: You need to organize your thoughts better. No one can understand what your saying. I don’t think you understand what you are saying either. I have yet to see a stock spec v dyno over 150whp. Most dyno at 145whp or so. That is about 17-18% loss. The only way to accurately get a drivetrain loss is to pull the engine and put it on the engine dyno. Some dyno’s do a roll out to figure out the drivetrain loss. It is still just an estimate. The Spec V more then likely has more parasitic loss due to the larger tires/heavier wheels. What matters is whp nothing more. Bragging about drivetrain loss is like bragging about how many eggs you dropped walking home from the store. You still dropped them and you don’t have them anymore. All that matters is how much you brought home NOT what you started with.
Last edited by 98sr20ve; Feb 9, 2003 at 04:53 PM.
Originally posted by 98sr20ve
How come I cant understand anything that you write.
I read a couple sentences and just feel lost.
Edit: You need to organize your thoughts better. No one can understand what your saying. I don’t think you understand what you are saying either. I have yet to see a stock spec v dyno over 150whp. Most dyno at 145whp or so. That is about 17-18% loss. The only way to accurately get a drivetrain loss is to pull the engine and put it on the engine dyno. Some dyno’s do a roll out to figure out the drivetrain loss. It is still just an estimate. The Spec V more then likely has more parasitic loss due to the larger tires/heavier wheels. What matters is whp nothing more. Bragging about drivetrain loss is like bragging about how many eggs you dropped walking home from the store. You still dropped them and you don’t have them anymore. All that matters is how much you brought home NOT what you started with.
How come I cant understand anything that you write.
I read a couple sentences and just feel lost.Edit: You need to organize your thoughts better. No one can understand what your saying. I don’t think you understand what you are saying either. I have yet to see a stock spec v dyno over 150whp. Most dyno at 145whp or so. That is about 17-18% loss. The only way to accurately get a drivetrain loss is to pull the engine and put it on the engine dyno. Some dyno’s do a roll out to figure out the drivetrain loss. It is still just an estimate. The Spec V more then likely has more parasitic loss due to the larger tires/heavier wheels. What matters is whp nothing more. Bragging about drivetrain loss is like bragging about how many eggs you dropped walking home from the store. You still dropped them and you don’t have them anymore. All that matters is how much you brought home NOT what you started with.
Jeff....
Originally posted by Shinobi
Tell me what you know about your VE and I'll tell you what I know about My SR20DET, VG30ET, VG30DE, KA24E, L80,
Tell me what you know about your VE and I'll tell you what I know about My SR20DET, VG30ET, VG30DE, KA24E, L80,
Originally posted by Shinobi
a middle aged balding man with the audasity to think because....,
a middle aged balding man with the audasity to think because....,
Originally posted by Shinobi
Go back to autocross country, get a car for a road course and then you can bust on me
Go back to autocross country, get a car for a road course and then you can bust on me
Instead trying to insult me why dont you just answer the question. You did not explain yourself well and I called you on it. Don't get all bent out of shape over it. Explain yourself and your previous comments about drivetrain loss better, thats all I ask. I was not that far over the top and I gave you the facts as I know them. If you start trying to insult me again I will not respond in this thread any longer.
Originally posted by Shinobi
Hey steve when you stop thinkin your auto cross times are gonna impress me then you can give me a lecture on how I write as for your SR20VE , a middle aged balding man with the audasity to think because he drives a Rare motor Hybrid, he knows Nissan, doesnt make you a god in my eyes it saddens me that all these years you've been involved you've learned nothing.....Tell me what you know about your VE and I'll tell you what I know about My SR20DET, VG30ET, VG30DE, KA24E, L80, And last but not least My QR25DE.....(Soon to be FJ20)....Till then keep your eyes open, dont close them to the fact that you might have someone who researched a little more than you did........Go back to autocross country, get a car for a road course and then you can bust on me.......As for your swift Egg dropping opinion....Thank you, thank you for pointing out the obvious, But never the less facts are facts........tsk tsk......And to think I Told drew to ask you about a setup just because I thought you could answer him better than I could for autocross I guess i was mistaken........
Jeff....
Hey steve when you stop thinkin your auto cross times are gonna impress me then you can give me a lecture on how I write as for your SR20VE , a middle aged balding man with the audasity to think because he drives a Rare motor Hybrid, he knows Nissan, doesnt make you a god in my eyes it saddens me that all these years you've been involved you've learned nothing.....Tell me what you know about your VE and I'll tell you what I know about My SR20DET, VG30ET, VG30DE, KA24E, L80, And last but not least My QR25DE.....(Soon to be FJ20)....Till then keep your eyes open, dont close them to the fact that you might have someone who researched a little more than you did........Go back to autocross country, get a car for a road course and then you can bust on me.......As for your swift Egg dropping opinion....Thank you, thank you for pointing out the obvious, But never the less facts are facts........tsk tsk......And to think I Told drew to ask you about a setup just because I thought you could answer him better than I could for autocross I guess i was mistaken........
Jeff....
Originally posted by TurboB15sentra
Hey... I know a little bit bout dem dang ole QR25's.. boy I tell you what you just put dat dang ole turbo on it... and VROOMM PSHHH!!
Hey... I know a little bit bout dem dang ole QR25's.. boy I tell you what you just put dat dang ole turbo on it... and VROOMM PSHHH!!
jeff: whassup. you say you are setting up your car for road racing because you like drifting. Well, that will get you no where b/c drifting is slower, and even if you argue that it's faster, it will over heat the tires, and will raise up the pressure, and cause the tires to get greasy causing you to totally lose traction in the rest of the race. no if you were just going to do drift competitions that's another story.
on the 3% drivetrain loss theory. Were you drinking or something? lol. that sounds like drew after he spent an hour in a car with friends in the parking lot, hehe. think about it bro, 3%? that doesn't even seem logical. if you really seen it whereever you got it from, maybe it was a typo or something.
as for steve, we've had our differences in the past, but i have no doubts that he knows some shit about nissans. as for as him autoxing, he might not be the best one, i'd probably be a little better than he, but on a road track, i'm sure he'd tear me in half. i'm willing to bet he could take your sr20det 200zx on a road course any day. that's not a cut down, he just has the experience in it.
but anyways, enough of all the engine talk, i dunno if i could live if drew's car was faster than mine.
on the 3% drivetrain loss theory. Were you drinking or something? lol. that sounds like drew after he spent an hour in a car with friends in the parking lot, hehe. think about it bro, 3%? that doesn't even seem logical. if you really seen it whereever you got it from, maybe it was a typo or something.
as for steve, we've had our differences in the past, but i have no doubts that he knows some shit about nissans. as for as him autoxing, he might not be the best one, i'd probably be a little better than he, but on a road track, i'm sure he'd tear me in half. i'm willing to bet he could take your sr20det 200zx on a road course any day. that's not a cut down, he just has the experience in it.
but anyways, enough of all the engine talk, i dunno if i could live if drew's car was faster than mine.
I give on this......I stated facts put out in a news letter from Nissan Motorsports, If you dont like that get at them as for steve and his autocross times I didnt like him then I dont like him now his opinion is dirt to me.......As for the road coarse theres a certain amount of drifting in any road race....(But i see your point Dave, point well taken I will reword next time.....) As for the SR20 Its not the road racer the VG30ET is.... torq plus high RPM's plus handling and a new ballance of weight equals me dogging the VE driver or not. As for the SR20VE against my SR20DET maybe but never against my archaic out of date VG monster, theres not even a comparison.......Its like putting a bad driver in a GT500 car and a good driver in a GT300 car and telling the GT300 guy to pass the GT500 guy only on straitaways........But we'll put times down this summer and see what happens........(To be fair)






