Phase 4: The WRX lives again!!: T-Minus 3 weeks
Originally Posted by litlespic
And also, stock wrx trannys are holding 400 wheel hp. Ohh wait, some do but everyone know hows weak they are.
I dont think that I could have put it better myself dan. And my tranny held up fine, I never got detonation either, well except for that one time
I have a question for you ben, just out of curiosity. How is a 280 hp flywheel car going to make 300 to the wheels with just a reflash for a lower octane gas? Im not trying to argue and be an ass, i just want to know because i cant figure it out.
First off, they are extremely underated from the factory. That 280 crank horse power is more like 260-270ish whp. Pair taht with a tune (more boost, better A/F, etc), and a turboback, voila, thur ya go
Originally Posted by litlespic
And also, stock wrx trannys are holding 400 wheel hp. Ohh wait, some do but everyone know hows weak they are.
A stock WRX puts out around 160-170 hp at the wheels. Most WRX's with mods similar to mine (turbo, fuel system, intercooler, exhaust, ECU, etc.) are putting out 300 or more to the wheels. Couple that with abuse (hard launches, etc.) and they fail.
I'm not saying they are the strongest thing in the world, but everyone keeps saying how weak they are, but they neglect to look at the big picture.
And, yes, everyone has "seen a stock WRX break a transmission". But, I'm sure you can find plenty of cases where a stock Ford, Mitsubishi, or even Ferrari has broken and is still bone-stock. That's why cars come with warranties.
I dont know ben, when I hear about them being under rated I hear more of them being around 300 to the crank. Im thinkin you will make around 280ish to the wheels when its all said and done. Keep in mind ben, your looking at a 22-25% drive train loss. So a 300 crank hp car will make aprox. 240-245whp. So by what your saying is that your motor with a reflash will make about 375 crank hp with a reflash...subaru may under rate, but an whole 100 crank hp, supra's arent even that under rated. Im just saying all #s considered its going to be a big stretch. What kind of boost does this reflash run? Im not trying to be an ass hole here ben, im just trying to make myself understand. And untill i know without a shadow of a doubt, im going to keep on truckin...
-Slowrx
-Slowrx
Originally Posted by spic
Did you mean hypereutectic pistons? hi-per-u-tek-tik
Read a book, people.
Running 25psi on near-cast pistons is fucking ballsy. Best of luck.
Read a book, people.
Running 25psi on near-cast pistons is fucking ballsy. Best of luck.
Hypereutectic pistons are used in some original equipment engines. They are favored because of reduced scuffing, improved power, fuel economy and emissions.
Hypereutectic 390 refers to a unique aluminum piston alloy that contains dissolved and free silicon. The material can be T6 heat treated to high strength and stiffness. Non-heat treated 390 hypereutectic alloy aluminum has slightly less strength than conventionally cast F-132 aluminum. With this in mind, we caution the reader about the use of non-T6 heat treated O.E. design hypereutectic pistons for high performance. Silvolite and others do make replacement-type hypereutectic pistons that are worthwhile for stock replacement applications. Original equipment design is almost never suitable for performance applications.
The KB line of hypereutectic pistons were designed around the 390 alloy. The result is a high performance part intended to give the performance engine builder access to the latest in piston technology. Forgings have long been the mainstay of the performance business and did well in the big cubic inch engines of the 60’s. Now, with focus on peak cylinder pressure timing, ring sealing dynamics, cylinder air tumble and swirl, combustion chamber science, and extended RPM ranges, we need to consider some new piston options.
The KB T6 hypereutectics are considerably different than the forgings. The KB pistons have shown improvement in power, fuel economy, cylinder sealing, service life, and cost effectiveness. The reduced thermal expansion rate allows the piston to be run with reduced clearance. A tight piston is less likely to rock, make noise, and burn oil. A rocking piston wears rings and increases blow-bye. The close fit of the KB piston allows the piston rings to truly seal, minimizing blow-by.
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There will always be a market for custom forged pistons. Small runs of forgings are more economical than small runs of permanent mold pistons because of the complexity of permanent mold tooling. Where quantities justify, expect to see future KB pistons developed that are lighter and stronger than anything else on the market. Machined head profiles are easily changed with our CNC equipment so we will stay current with new cylinder head developments. Volume production is expected to keep the price reasonable. Our pricing policy has given the impression to some that we are building an economy, or in between, piston. The truth is, we are striving to build the "State of the Art" piston that is best, regardless of price. Reasonable pricing is just an added benefit.
Originally Posted by DeepFreeze
Uhm....yeah.....here ya go. and Yes, I know what I am talking about.






