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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Read: Virginian Pilot-Reviews 2006 Eclipse

Originally Posted by GR1FFON
He said it does 8.3 in 1/8mi and the proceeded to say the car would do mid-late 14's.

Mid-late 15's make a lot more sense.
Where in the world are you getting your math man? Your math is all fucked up, have you ever even taken your car to a track? A FWD car on street tires cutting a 8.3 in the 1/8th mile is getting ready to run anywhere from 12.5 to low 13's. Show me a time slip of a FWD car on street tires cutting a 8.3 in the 1/8th and anything over 14 in the 1/4 and I'll tell you he coasted to the 1/4 after 1000feet.
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Where in the world are you getting your math man? Your math is all fucked up, have you ever even taken your car to a track? A FWD car on street tires cutting a 8.3 in the 1/8th mile is getting ready to run anywhere from 12.5 to low 13's. Show me a time slip of a FWD car on street tires cutting a 8.3 in the 1/8th and anything over 14 in the 1/4 and I'll tell you he coasted to the 1/4 after 1000feet.

Why don't you show me a timeslip of a FWD car doing a 8.3 in the 1/8th and then a 12.5 to low 13's on the same day on street tires, stock?

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those fuckers are straight up stupid. A couple weeks ago they confused a Mustang and a Ford GT.... It's only like a $130,000 difference.
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Default Re: Interesting Read: Virginian Pilot-Reviews 2006 Eclipse

Originally Posted by GR1FFON
Why don't you show me a timeslip of a FWD car doing a 8.3 in the 1/8th and then a 12.5 to low 13's on the same day on street tires, stock?
Stock? bwhaha, you're an idiot. Anyways, stock srt's best times list typically run 8.9-9.1 1/8th's and run 13.7-14.0@101mph or so. So pls, again, show me how in the world a 8.3 1/8th on a FWD street tire car runs 15's? Idiot.
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Originally Posted by GR1FFON
Why don't you show me a timeslip of a FWD car doing a 8.3 in the 1/8th and then a 12.5 to low 13's on the same day on street tires, stock?
Oh, and since you seem oblivious to a simple fact...1/4 mile slips usually show your 1/8 time/mph. On same day on same tires...haha, how about same damn slip moron.
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Stock? bwhaha, you're an idiot. Anyways, stock srt's best times list typically run 8.9-9.1 1/8th's and run 13.7-14.0@101mph or so. So pls, again, show me how in the world a 8.3 1/8th on a FWD street tire car runs 15's? Idiot.

If you read my posts, you would have noticed that I said with a turbo (which delivers top end power) that kind of time is possible.

But we aren't talking about a turbo car. We're talking about a NON-TURBO stock, smart ass.

Specifically, a NON-TURBO eclipse that isn't going to have that kind of power in the top end...

You're the idiot.
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Oh, and since you seem oblivious to a simple fact...1/4 mile slips usually show your 1/8 time/mph. On same day on same tires...haha, how about same damn slip moron.
Usually isn't always is it? Ha ha...PM me your slips...
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Default Re: Interesting Read: Virginian Pilot-Reviews 2006 Eclipse

Originally Posted by GR1FFON
Momentum refers to a rate of speed, or better rate of acceleration correct? So, the car has a rate of acceleration from the line to the finish, correct? Are we saying that this rate of acceleration somehow changes dramatically depending on the distance you are traveling, without some kind of forced induction or change in timing like vtec?

Of course we aren't doing an 1/8 mi, stopping and doing another. It's a continuous rate of acceleration, so that rate isn't a variable (again without FI), however the distance is, and the distance traveled is changing for 1/8mi to 1/4, essentially doubling.

Every thing else, (time off the line, rate of acceleration) should be the same provided there are no mechanical changes.

SO, the variable in the equation is distance which is halved, everything being relative, doubling the 1/8 mi time with a margin of error can be used to project, NOT ACCURATELY MEASURE a 1/4 time.

That being said, I made that post to try and find out where that guy was getting his math. He said it does 8.3 in 1/8mi and the proceeded to say the car would do mid-late 14's.

Mid-late 15's make a lot more sense.
i dont know if someone already stated it or not, but your forgetting the units on acceleration. distance: meters velocity: m/s acceleration: m/s/s
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Originally Posted by GR1FFON
I get it completely.Of course you would travel the second 1/8 mi quicker, but you also have to take into account that once you hit fifth or sixth gear (depending on which you have) that velocity will be at a steady rate (less accleration). so we aren't talking about shaving 3-4 secs on the second 1/8 mi, more like 1-2. If you notice, my estimate took off a full second. 8.3 x 2= 16.6...I estimated around mid-late 15's, removing a full second because you won't be starting from a full stop.

The math may not be perfect, and I didn't say it was totally accurate. I still say stock, this new eclipse should run 15's
not to be an ass, but in order to have a constant velocity, you have to have zero acceleration.
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Default Re: Interesting Read: Virginian Pilot-Reviews 2006 Eclipse

Originally Posted by GR1FFON
If you read my posts, you would have noticed that I said with a turbo (which delivers top end power) that kind of time is possible.

But we aren't talking about a turbo car. We're talking about a NON-TURBO stock, smart ass.

Specifically, a NON-TURBO eclipse that isn't going to have that kind of power in the top end...

You're the idiot.
All motor cars don't have any topend? Pls, tell the LS1 owners that they have no top end power. Hell, look at the S2000 guys that claim to have a better topend than srt-4's with their almighty turbo. Ingenius. Anyways, there's no FWD cars that cut 8.2 1/8th stock. So that's a null and void arguement. Which, btw, S2000's trap like 1mph less than what an srt-4 does in the 1/4 mile according to magazines(sorry, never owned 1, never ran one at a track). So pls, don't try to play the turbo's are the end all to topend power bullshit. Now if we want to be realistic, because obviously you're not...you just try your scapegoat excuse 'find me a stock FWD car that cuts 8.3's!'. Now in a realistic world...I'm sure there are a few engine swapped Honda's running all motor cutting low 8's in the 1/8th...hell, I'll even give benefit of the doubt and say on DR's, and still running low 13's. If a FWD car has the power to get an 8.2 in the 1/8th on street tires(because, obviously they're not doing it with traction, not on street tires), they're going to run better than 15's...15's are way off, hell, we can play magazine racer over at MT or C&D and see that RSX's don't cut 8.2 1/8th's(but they do run 15.0 1/4s, give or take some change), not even on their best day. And in the real world, the new Eclipse will be lucky to run 9.0x 1/8ths, yet alone breaking into the 8's.

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