Turbo vs Supercharger
^I find it funny that you and other noobs base all of your knowledge on this or any subject from a video of two busted ass civics on streetfire, like that answers all questions ever asked about the topic. gtfo with your homo streetfire vids.
shut up you fucking pussy...come in here acting like a fucking jerk off...you aint bout shit. i was comparing somthing with a video cause its alot easier to see somthing and explain it. ha, thats funny, dude you are seriously a low life E PUSSSY shut the fuck up and get out the damn thread pussy.
you know you can always tell the kids who got their asses beat in school and hwo had no friends when they come into shit like this acting like complete GANGSTAAASSS hardcore we are "NOOBS" lmao damn dude you are a POS
Last edited by DecentCivicZ6; Jun 13, 2007 at 01:30 PM.
Always huh?
Lets say you have a motor that has 9.0:1 compression that can only handle say 10psi of boost before it wants to pop. Now you have a supercharger that runs at 76% adiabatic efficieny (thanks fabrik8) at 10psi. Now say you have a turbo instead of a supercharger. Now at 10psi, this turbo is running at 62% adiabatic efficiency. That means, its putting more restriction on the exhaust/motor causing you to have less efficient of a system and LESS HORSEPOWER.
Lets say you have a motor that has 9.0:1 compression that can only handle say 10psi of boost before it wants to pop. Now you have a supercharger that runs at 76% adiabatic efficieny (thanks fabrik8) at 10psi. Now say you have a turbo instead of a supercharger. Now at 10psi, this turbo is running at 62% adiabatic efficiency. That means, its putting more restriction on the exhaust/motor causing you to have less efficient of a system and LESS HORSEPOWER.
Typically a roots style supercharger will have a lower adiabatic efficiency than a properly sized turbo for the application. Centrifugal style superchargers are basically like a turbo where the compressor is fed a work input off of a belt driven shaft by the motor rather than the exhaust producing a shaft input from the turbine. The big problem with these is that they produce less than desired powerbands because they dont reach full boost until high rpms.
Most of the time on a given engine a proper turbo setup with a large enough turbine that isn't going to restrict ve will make more power, but not all setups are equal so its hard to say 9psi on the turbo motor will make more power than 9psi on the supercharged motor. Too many variables.
You have your definition of adiabatic efficiency all turned around here. It has nothing to do with a restriction on the ve of the motor or the exhaust flow. Adiabatic efficiency is a measure of how efficiently the compressor compresses the air without raising air temperatures too high. A compressor working in the point of a compressor map where efficiency is very low will be putting out very high air temps.
Typically a roots style supercharger will have a lower adiabatic efficiency than a properly sized turbo for the application. Centrifugal style superchargers are basically like a turbo where the compressor is fed a work input off of a belt driven shaft by the motor rather than the exhaust producing a shaft input from the turbine. The big problem with these is that they produce less than desired powerbands because they dont reach full boost until high rpms.
Most of the time on a given engine a proper turbo setup with a large enough turbine that isn't going to restrict ve will make more power, but not all setups are equal so its hard to say 9psi on the turbo motor will make more power than 9psi on the supercharged motor. Too many variables.
Typically a roots style supercharger will have a lower adiabatic efficiency than a properly sized turbo for the application. Centrifugal style superchargers are basically like a turbo where the compressor is fed a work input off of a belt driven shaft by the motor rather than the exhaust producing a shaft input from the turbine. The big problem with these is that they produce less than desired powerbands because they dont reach full boost until high rpms.
Most of the time on a given engine a proper turbo setup with a large enough turbine that isn't going to restrict ve will make more power, but not all setups are equal so its hard to say 9psi on the turbo motor will make more power than 9psi on the supercharged motor. Too many variables.
thanks dude thats exactly what i was saying, so that Jslice can blow me.... see what the man just said Jslice ( "The big problem with these is that they produce less than desired powerbands because they dont reach full boost until high rpms".) is that not what i said in diff words JSLICE???
here is what i said ""turbo is gonna outrun him cause hes making full boost from 2 or 3,000rpms all the way out....peak HP really aint shit. and im talking a turbo made for that engine, and a s/c made for that engine, neither one smaller than the other or anything to restrict one more than the other.
fuel pump would be part of the fuel system
Edit: with a supercharger, you might not want an intercooler, you will probably just want like a vortech procharger kit with the after-cooler setup, which is much more efficient (and not to mention stealth). heres a pic of one on an S2K. Plus you will hear it spool and blow off just like a turbo, that is if you're into that type of ricer shit
lolz

Edit: with a supercharger, you might not want an intercooler, you will probably just want like a vortech procharger kit with the after-cooler setup, which is much more efficient (and not to mention stealth). heres a pic of one on an S2K. Plus you will hear it spool and blow off just like a turbo, that is if you're into that type of ricer shit
lolzlol... i like the SC noise better then the PSH PSH PSH PSH every time you hit the gas with a turbo lol.
""turbo is gonna outrun him cause hes making full boost from 2 or 3,000rpms all the way out....peak HP really aint shit. and im talking a turbo made for that engine, and a s/c made for that engine, neither one smaller than the other or anything to restrict one more than the other.
Fix this mess. it seriously needs some help.
lol...... fight fight fight?
m3 = 240 hp
6psi SC = about 50-60?
so me go about 290-300 hp weeeeeeeeee
so where is the serious help needed? are you talkig about the shyt that looks like scratches?? LOL thats not scratches...it was before i turbod the car i was going outa state and had AEM cai, and it started POURING DOWN rain i mean where i couldnt see...and i didnt wanna suck water up from going thru the front vent, so i duct taped it over for the rest of the highway trip, and thats just the shit left from the tape. So where is the serious help needed???







