After market exhaust illegal in VA?
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Re: After market exhaust illegal in VA?
Bullshit!
What about every muffler shop in the state of Virginia?
It's just a double standard.
Stock exhaust ticket
People are even getting tickets for stock exhausts that cops think might maybe kinda not look stock.
In the field, cops are judge, jury, and executioner. Bottom line: if you have to go to court you've already lost. Even if you win and have court costs waived, you still have to pay for their parking, and by the time you go to court to prove yourself innocent that's a day of work you're not getting paid for.
What about every muffler shop in the state of Virginia?
It's just a double standard.
Stock exhaust ticket
People are even getting tickets for stock exhausts that cops think might maybe kinda not look stock.
In the field, cops are judge, jury, and executioner. Bottom line: if you have to go to court you've already lost. Even if you win and have court costs waived, you still have to pay for their parking, and by the time you go to court to prove yourself innocent that's a day of work you're not getting paid for.
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Re: After market exhaust illegal in VA?
Hmm... factory specs, and what are factory specs?
Does that mean you can have an Oem Type R header if you have an ITR, but not if you have a GSR?
Or that your car can only be loud as fuck if you get the GT package for your new Mustang for an extra 10 grand and get the V8, because if you retrofit the OEM GT exhaust to the V6 it then becomes "illegal"?
The law means what they want it to mean when they want it to mean it.
If you do ANYTHING different to your car from stock you are a target, and even if you don't you're still not in the clear, as the Stock exhaust ticket thread proves.
I'm tired of splitting hairs on this subject, regardless of what the law says, the reasons behind it are ill thought out and the justification is flawed. Your car can be X loud or the tip can be Y big if it comes that way from the factory, but if you do it then it's illegal.
A stock MR2 from the factory breaks the maximum noise limit in almost every state where they actually measure exhaust level in db, don't have a link, but look it up.
If the issue is noise, then make it about noise, but they don't.
The law doesn't have a point or central argument that its founded on, it's merely intended to fuck people.
If the tip is acceptable it will be about the noise, if the noise is acceptable, it will be about the tip, if both of those are okay it will be because it's shiny.
Shit, if everything is fine and you haven't changed anything from OEM you're still getting a ticket.
The Stock Exhaust ticket thread proves that the situation is out of hand in VA.
Does that mean you can have an Oem Type R header if you have an ITR, but not if you have a GSR?
Or that your car can only be loud as fuck if you get the GT package for your new Mustang for an extra 10 grand and get the V8, because if you retrofit the OEM GT exhaust to the V6 it then becomes "illegal"?
The law means what they want it to mean when they want it to mean it.
If you do ANYTHING different to your car from stock you are a target, and even if you don't you're still not in the clear, as the Stock exhaust ticket thread proves.
I'm tired of splitting hairs on this subject, regardless of what the law says, the reasons behind it are ill thought out and the justification is flawed. Your car can be X loud or the tip can be Y big if it comes that way from the factory, but if you do it then it's illegal.
A stock MR2 from the factory breaks the maximum noise limit in almost every state where they actually measure exhaust level in db, don't have a link, but look it up.
If the issue is noise, then make it about noise, but they don't.
The law doesn't have a point or central argument that its founded on, it's merely intended to fuck people.
If the tip is acceptable it will be about the noise, if the noise is acceptable, it will be about the tip, if both of those are okay it will be because it's shiny.
Shit, if everything is fine and you haven't changed anything from OEM you're still getting a ticket.
The Stock Exhaust ticket thread proves that the situation is out of hand in VA.
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Re: After market exhaust illegal in VA?
Hmm... factory specs, and what are factory specs?
Does that mean you can have an Oem Type R header if you have an ITR, but not if you have a GSR?
Or that your car can only be loud as fuck if you get the GT package for your new Mustang for an extra 10 grand and get the V8, because if you retrofit the OEM GT exhaust to the V6 it then becomes "illegal"?
The law means what they want it to mean when they want it to mean it.
If you do ANYTHING different to your car from stock you are a target, and even if you don't you're still not in the clear, as the Stock exhaust ticket thread proves.
I'm tired of splitting hairs on this subject, regardless of what the law says, the reasons behind it are ill thought out and the justification is flawed. Your car can be X loud or the tip can be Y big if it comes that way from the factory, but if you do it then it's illegal.
A stock MR2 from the factory breaks the maximum noise limit in almost every state where they actually measure exhaust level in db, don't have a link, but look it up.
If the issue is noise, then make it about noise, but they don't.
The law doesn't have a point or central argument that its founded on, it's merely intended to fuck people.
If the tip is acceptable it will be about the noise, if the noise is acceptable, it will be about the tip, if both of those are okay it will be because it's shiny.
Shit, if everything is fine and you haven't changed anything from OEM you're still getting a ticket.
The Stock Exhaust ticket thread proves that the situation is out of hand in VA.
Does that mean you can have an Oem Type R header if you have an ITR, but not if you have a GSR?
Or that your car can only be loud as fuck if you get the GT package for your new Mustang for an extra 10 grand and get the V8, because if you retrofit the OEM GT exhaust to the V6 it then becomes "illegal"?
The law means what they want it to mean when they want it to mean it.
If you do ANYTHING different to your car from stock you are a target, and even if you don't you're still not in the clear, as the Stock exhaust ticket thread proves.
I'm tired of splitting hairs on this subject, regardless of what the law says, the reasons behind it are ill thought out and the justification is flawed. Your car can be X loud or the tip can be Y big if it comes that way from the factory, but if you do it then it's illegal.
A stock MR2 from the factory breaks the maximum noise limit in almost every state where they actually measure exhaust level in db, don't have a link, but look it up.
If the issue is noise, then make it about noise, but they don't.
The law doesn't have a point or central argument that its founded on, it's merely intended to fuck people.
If the tip is acceptable it will be about the noise, if the noise is acceptable, it will be about the tip, if both of those are okay it will be because it's shiny.
Shit, if everything is fine and you haven't changed anything from OEM you're still getting a ticket.
The Stock Exhaust ticket thread proves that the situation is out of hand in VA.
ITS A FUCKIN CONSPIRACY BRO
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