Yo a Black NSX!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah but its not true its all how u take care of the car.. ibet u over 100,000 miles when a nsx needes a tune up for 80k car , corvette that costs 55k stilll wont spend 25k on tune up till 100k also someone buying that type car dont drive it everyday
i'll never pay full price for an NSX. but i would pay $50 K for a good used one tho
. If they brought over the NSX type S zero ,then i think it'd really be worth it (q/t 12.89). Anywho, I saw an NSX too! all the colors (except the new one) when i went to an NSX gathering in NOVA.
. If they brought over the NSX type S zero ,then i think it'd really be worth it (q/t 12.89). Anywho, I saw an NSX too! all the colors (except the new one) when i went to an NSX gathering in NOVA.
Originally posted by drifter
lets get one thing straight...NSX's dont cost 90000
lets get one thing straight...NSX's dont cost 90000
According to that link a new one does.
2003 Acura NSX-retail price
then according to that, i agree with you, 90 g's is an outrageous price...20 more and you got yourself a nice ferrari
Originally posted by BlawndyCivGal
Ok guy, I'm sure I'm wrong... but its proven by the sheer endurance (or long lasting quality, I won't play word games) of hondas/acuras that they are built better, last longer, and have fewer problems... that's the point... buy a corvette all you want, you're not buying quality, you're buying a "legend"...however, I am not going to have the import vs. domestic battle... I think we all know the story there...
Ok guy, I'm sure I'm wrong... but its proven by the sheer endurance (or long lasting quality, I won't play word games) of hondas/acuras that they are built better, last longer, and have fewer problems... that's the point... buy a corvette all you want, you're not buying quality, you're buying a "legend"...however, I am not going to have the import vs. domestic battle... I think we all know the story there...
By Trevor Hofmann
It's not too often that a 3rd place contender grabs the leading headlines, but in this case it is the annual J.D. Power and Associates' Initial Quality Survey and for the first time in its history a U.S. automaker with multiple brands cracked the top-three positions. General Motors stole the 'show' away from Nissan, which slipped from 3rd to 6th place this year, due to new product launches.
The J.D. Power study, released Thursday, May 30th, is derived of data gathered from approximately 65,000 new 2002 model car and light truck buyers and lessees who evaluated their vehicles after 90 days of ownership. The study showed that GM had 130 problems per 100 vehicles, an 11 % improvement over last year, when its rating was 146.
As reported in Automotive News, GM North America president Gary Cowger said, "All the competition continues to improve, which means we have to double our efforts to improve quality." He went on stating, "If we want to increase market share and net income, we need to make sure we are delivering quality products."
Overall, BMW placed 3rd with 116 problems per 100 vehicles while Porsche placed 4th with 122, moving GM to 5th place. Some might argue that BMW is a multi-line producer, but the acquisition of Rolls-Royce will take place in January of 2003 and the recent launch of Mini is hardly 90 days old, not enough to qualify for this year's survey.
Of note, GM Canada's Oshawa plant received the highest rating for North American manufacturing plants, a Gold Plant Quality Award. Other GM plants received awards too. Toyota took top worldwide honors, winning the Platinum Plant Quality Award. BMW of North America won the European Gold Plant Quality Award with their Rosslyn, South Africa plant.
While this is a significant achievement for GM, other manufacturers deserve some of the limelight. DaimlerChrysler moved up into 4th place with 141 problems while Ford gained ground from last year's 7th place to 5th, with 143 problems per 100 vehicles compared with 2001's 162.
Overall, Toyota's Lexus brand led the survey, with Honda's Acura brand and Nissan's Infiniti brand tied for second place. The industry averaged 133 problems per 100 vehicles.
The following is a list of the winners in their respective categories:
Compact Car: 1) Toyota Corolla, Toyota Prius (TIE) 2) Chevrolet Prizm
Entry Mid-Size Car: 1) Chevrolet Malibu 2) Oldsmobile Alero 3) Pontiac Grand Am
Premium Midsize Car: 1) Buick Century 2) Chevrolet Monte Carlo 3) Honda Accord
Full-Size Car: 1) Buick Le Sabre 2) Ford Crown Victoria 3) Mercury Grand Marquie, Pontiac Bonneville (TIE)
Entry Luxury Car: 1) Ford Thunderbird 2) Acura TL, Lexus ES300 (TIE)
Midsize Luxury Car: 1) Lexus GS 300/430 2) Volvo S80 3) Lincoln Town Car
Premium Luxury Car: 1) Lexus LS 430 2) Lexus SC 430 3) Mercedes-Benz S-Class
Sporty Car: 1) Mazda Miata 2) Toyota MR2 Spyder 3) Toyota Celica
Premium Sports Car: 1) Chevrolet Corvette 2) Porsche 911 3) Honda S2000
Compact Pick-Up: 1) Toyota Tacoma 2) Chevy S-10, Ford Ranger (TIE)
Full-Size Pick-Up: 1) Toyota Tundra 2) Chevy Silverado LD 3) Ford F-150 LD
Entry SUV: 1) Toyota RAV4 2) Honda CR-V 3) Hyundai Santa Fe, Subaru Forester (TIE)
Midsize SUV: 1) Toyota Highlander 2) Nissan Pathfinder 3) Toyota 4Runner
Full-Size SUV: 1) Ford Expedition 2) Chevy Tahoe 3) Toyota Sequoia
Luxury SUV: 1) Lexus LX 470 2) Lexus RX 300 3) Infiniti QX4
Compact Van: 1) Toyota Sienna 2) Dodge Caravan, Mercury
Villager (TIE)
Notice that an AUTHORITY on quality used FACTS and listed the Corvette #1 in initially quality. And look who was #3, OMG it was a Honda, GASP!
Last edited by 94SupraTT; Mar 13, 2003 at 08:00 PM.
The guy that lives over by me, had a black rx-7 with 2 white racing stripes down the middle, and bought a black NSX. I see him driving around my neighborhood all the time. I give him a thumbs up everytime i see him. He has a mr2 turbo and black nsx in his garage.
Originally posted by Boosted2003
yeah but its not true its all how u take care of the car.. ibet u over 100,000 miles when a nsx needes a tune up for 80k car , corvette that costs 55k stilll wont spend 25k on tune up till 100k also someone buying that type car dont drive it everyday
yeah but its not true its all how u take care of the car.. ibet u over 100,000 miles when a nsx needes a tune up for 80k car , corvette that costs 55k stilll wont spend 25k on tune up till 100k also someone buying that type car dont drive it everyday
Since I've had the car, the only problems I've had (excluding scheduled maintenance stuff):
- blew the alternator at 40k miles because I had my stereo up too loud for too long (punch 800 amp
) replaced under extended warranty.- had the throttle body disassembled and cleaned around 75k miles due to poor throttle response. this is a common issue due to oil and carbon getting blown back in the intake from the emissions system, cost me $400 bones
- body control module and driver side door module flipped out around 80k miles. replaced under extended warranty.
- rear differential leaking a little bit around 80k miles. replaced under extended warranty.
This is by far the most reliable car I've ever owned, not to say anything bad about the NSX, but I don't think you can say one is more reliable than the other.
Originally posted by 94SupraTT
Compact Car: 1) Toyota Corolla, Toyota Prius (TIE) 2) Chevrolet Prizm
Entry Mid-Size Car: 1) Chevrolet Malibu 2) Oldsmobile Alero 3) Pontiac Grand Am
Premium Midsize Car: 1) Buick Century 2) Chevrolet Monte Carlo 3) Honda Accord
Full-Size Car: 1) Buick Le Sabre 2) Ford Crown Victoria 3) Mercury Grand Marquie, Pontiac Bonneville (TIE)
Entry Luxury Car: 1) Ford Thunderbird 2) Acura TL, Lexus ES300 (TIE)
Midsize Luxury Car: 1) Lexus GS 300/430 2) Volvo S80 3) Lincoln Town Car
Premium Luxury Car: 1) Lexus LS 430 2) Lexus SC 430 3) Mercedes-Benz S-Class
Sporty Car: 1) Mazda Miata 2) Toyota MR2 Spyder 3) Toyota Celica
Premium Sports Car: 1) Chevrolet Corvette 2) Porsche 911 3) Honda S2000
Compact Pick-Up: 1) Toyota Tacoma 2) Chevy S-10, Ford Ranger (TIE)
Full-Size Pick-Up: 1) Toyota Tundra 2) Chevy Silverado LD 3) Ford F-150 LD
Entry SUV: 1) Toyota RAV4 2) Honda CR-V 3) Hyundai Santa Fe, Subaru Forester (TIE)
Midsize SUV: 1) Toyota Highlander 2) Nissan Pathfinder 3) Toyota 4Runner
Full-Size SUV: 1) Ford Expedition 2) Chevy Tahoe 3) Toyota Sequoia
Luxury SUV: 1) Lexus LX 470 2) Lexus RX 300 3) Infiniti QX4
Compact Van: 1) Toyota Sienna 2) Dodge Caravan, Mercury
Villager (TIE)
Compact Car: 1) Toyota Corolla, Toyota Prius (TIE) 2) Chevrolet Prizm
Entry Mid-Size Car: 1) Chevrolet Malibu 2) Oldsmobile Alero 3) Pontiac Grand Am
Premium Midsize Car: 1) Buick Century 2) Chevrolet Monte Carlo 3) Honda Accord
Full-Size Car: 1) Buick Le Sabre 2) Ford Crown Victoria 3) Mercury Grand Marquie, Pontiac Bonneville (TIE)
Entry Luxury Car: 1) Ford Thunderbird 2) Acura TL, Lexus ES300 (TIE)
Midsize Luxury Car: 1) Lexus GS 300/430 2) Volvo S80 3) Lincoln Town Car
Premium Luxury Car: 1) Lexus LS 430 2) Lexus SC 430 3) Mercedes-Benz S-Class
Sporty Car: 1) Mazda Miata 2) Toyota MR2 Spyder 3) Toyota Celica
Premium Sports Car: 1) Chevrolet Corvette 2) Porsche 911 3) Honda S2000
Compact Pick-Up: 1) Toyota Tacoma 2) Chevy S-10, Ford Ranger (TIE)
Full-Size Pick-Up: 1) Toyota Tundra 2) Chevy Silverado LD 3) Ford F-150 LD
Entry SUV: 1) Toyota RAV4 2) Honda CR-V 3) Hyundai Santa Fe, Subaru Forester (TIE)
Midsize SUV: 1) Toyota Highlander 2) Nissan Pathfinder 3) Toyota 4Runner
Full-Size SUV: 1) Ford Expedition 2) Chevy Tahoe 3) Toyota Sequoia
Luxury SUV: 1) Lexus LX 470 2) Lexus RX 300 3) Infiniti QX4
Compact Van: 1) Toyota Sienna 2) Dodge Caravan, Mercury
Villager (TIE)
Pleas people quit with the whole "domestics are made worse then imports and imports are higher quality and last longer and blah blah blah" cuz it simply isnt true.
No one type of car is better than another because each car is constanty put through different variables then others. Sure a ford that has a shitty owner and who doesnt perform routine maintenance on it is gonna break down more often then a honda that has an owner who always changes the fluids on time and does routine maintenance...thats a given.
But saying "my mom's 98 explorer that has never had the oil changed has broken down more times then my 98 civic that is taken to the dealer every month for the warranty tune ups so domestics must suck when it comes to lasting long" is a stupid blanket statement made by the uninformed. Its not what company makes your car that determines how long it lasts, its the owner.






