yes i did say somethign about injectors, look again.......hks super sequential?, thats fine, i had that bov, pretty much all aftermarket bov's will be good for your setup.......

 

Have you ran your car at the track?

 

yes, before i got the car tuned, i was making 186 hp on an average of 8 psi, i went to MIR and on 8psi i ran a 13.1 @104 and that was my first pass(this was with the drag kit),i turned the boost up to about 10 but then my tranny let loose and i broke and had to go home, i got the car fixed, went to the track again but ran on street tires, this time i had the boost at 11 and on street tires i went 13.7 @108, the car was completely untuned then and i had dumped fuel into the car with the afc to safeguard myself, i was running very rich,since i got the car tuned i have went to the track once, i only run on street tires now because i cant afford to break tranny's, the car is completely different on the track now, i spin in 3rd now at like 40 % throttle ,its ridiculous, so im gonna get some drag radials, i ran the same 1/4 mile time with a 2.6 60 ft time, that was .4 slower than before and this was on 9 psi, the cars tuned for 13 psi, but the traction issue was so ridiculous that id just go slower with more boost, im going again this thursday if it doesnt rain, see if i can get some drag radials and a 13.4 on street tires, id be happy with that.....i can pull on mid 12 second all wheel drive cars on the highway and can keep up with 12 second hondas before the car was tuned,i havent raced anybody on the street since the car was tuned but im sure i can hold my own cause the car feels pretty sick right now on a measely 8 psi.........

 

See thats all I really want is a daily driven 13 second car. You think I really need a Hondata for just 13 seconds. Also how would and LSD help me? Would it lower my times?

 

i dont have hondata, and theres alot of other 12 and 13 second hondas that dont run hondata, but hondata is an awesome tool and you can get alot better results with hondata then just an afc, hell yea an lsd will help, i wish i could buy a quaife so i could stop breaking differentials and start busting axles, trannies get expensive after a while, im on my third tranny, thats why i stopped runnning on slicks with a stock open diff, but then again, my buddies running 11.7's on a stock diff on slicks, his clutch is a street disk which is helping him not break shit, they have alot more forgiveness than my 6 puck.....

 

13's is very do-able. you can use a hondata for much better tuning, ( i would recomend it for the price and ability to tune). it's gonna cost ~ the price of s-afc and avcr so why not.

 

no, it really wont be the same price at all, you dont need an avc-r......basic hondata setup for boosted cars is almost 600 bucks, you can get used afc for 200 bucks or less........the most ive seen out of a car with hondata on a stock ls is 290, thats race gas, my car is on pump gas and if on race gas id turn the boost up more and make more power, hondata does let you run no 02 sensors which is a definite bonus, but on pump gas you might get 20 more horses out of it wtih hondata and still be running safely, the good thing is when you go to the track, throw some race gas in it and turn up the boost, but if your looking for the cheapest route to a 13 second or faster car dont buy hondata, if money really isnt an option, get hondata......

 

Yeah well I think money is an option for about 90% of people and I am one of those. If money wasnt an option I would just go ahead and get a turbo kit. Maybe later on I can get a hondata and an LSD.

 

By the way thanks for all the info I am learning alot from research and from you guys. Maybe one of you guys can help me install everything when I get my whole setup. I think I want a setup that is similar to More Impatient. I read somewhere that GSR cams in my engine would be better for boost. You think this is worth it?

 

ill help you install it since you live in vb, descently close to my house, and id stick with the stock b16 cams if your trying to spend as little as possible and spend the money on descent turbo parts.......your gonna need a new clutch also , your stock shit will fry in a hearbeat......and im not really sure if the gsr cams are gonna be better, since first off the b16 head flows better than a gsr head so you would think that the b16 cams would be matched to the head in terms of power making capability.......