Nothing, as long as you don't quote a time slip pass with 100 oct as your street car, unless of course you run 100 octane all the time. If you drive a car on the street with built internals then that is how it is every day. If people swapped engines like they swap gas and quote the same times then that wouldn't be quite right would it? -Ian

 

The engine and ECU in my car right now was built to run on 110 octane in Japan

:shrug:

I'll be running 93 octane with maybe a little octane booster(nothing big). I'm actually going to be at a disadvantage, unless I dump in some nice race gas(doubt it).

Either way, I have to agree with the last comment by Turbo hatchy, run what you have brung and make sure it has legal plates on it. I'll be removing my glove box and passenger seat, that is not what I normally do on the street, but it makes me faster for the track, so why not?

What is the point of going to the track? See how fast your car is, and that's what I plan to do.

Nick

 

Everyone used to whine about a car being street LEGAL, not about whether the owner drives it everyday on the street. When did the rules change? What fuel you use where has NOTHING to do with it.

High, I understand your point that people that run race gas on the track and then come flailing the slip on the street. If the guy ran a 13.1 on pump gas, then ran a 12.9 on race gas, it is STILL a 12 second car and remains a 12 second car on the street because that was his BEST time and his car's best time.

You guys are really making it more difficult than it is, we're not adjusting times for slicks, putting bricks in people's trunks. Stick to the terminology set by our wise ancestors, STREET LEGAL.

Here's an example of such a case at a legally sanctioned event.

Natural Bridge import 4 cylinder STREET Fights: Any street car can enter, although the officials let two trailered built neons that were stripped and on slicks running nitrous compete against the street cars. The cars were definately not STREET LEGAL. We all didn't talk too much shit until it came down to the final race between the neon and marshall's talon. Neon lost and we advised them to take their trailored street legal cars and leave in a polite alcohol induced way.

I see where you're coming from High, but I think the rules don't need to be rewritten yet. There is a trade-off as to the comfort level you want to maintain while driving your car everyday, some people have a need for speed that will leave their car radio/heat and a/c-less and it's still their everyday driven street car. That doesn't mean you can add weight to their car because you like music and heat. I wouldn't make you disconnect your rear driveshaft before I race you, all wheel drive launches amaze me! But it would amaze me more to see a FWD on drag radials out launch an AWD talon.

 

not to nit-pick, but one of those neons had n20, the other was all motor. the all motor did pretty good, but it did have slicks and was stripped.
btw, i had the fastest mph of the day! what now!
so you are saying i can't run with a helmet on, because thats not how i race at the street? what about the vt car club members that don't have street cars, but only race cars like what i'm gonna ran when this goes down? i feel like just cause i don't have a street car, i can't be part of this! i go to tech and have 2 forms of transportation....a mountain bike, and a 520ci blown alcohol nova with 24" wide slicks. if your car club doesn't have a race car, you better build one and quik!
shaun
i'm a compolsive liar and poor speller.

 

It is all about your taste. I could build a car for straight drag racing but I do not have the time or money for that at the moment. Most of us want a car that can perform well at drag racing, autoX, and SCCA GT, not just point and shoot. I commend your club's cars and amazing times... you do have us out gunned in the drag racing category (from the numbers I have seen) but let's talk autoX or endurance GT .
and let's do 1/4 mile.. 1/8 mile is too short for any real fun

 

Japan doesnt use the same octane rating scales we use. Their octane ratings are higher therefore when here the same gas would have a much less rated octane.

 

Everything else I agree with, except that statement. It is a 12 second car at the track, and a 13 second car if it rolls up to me asking for some on the street. Just as long as the 12 is qualified with the rest of the info then yes it is a 12 second car.

I wear my helmet every day, you never know what is going to happen out there.... Just kidding. I think a helmet falls into a slightly different category of "mod" as opposed to octane and engines. Run what you got in my opinion, I just wanted to explain my position on the whole time slip thing for a street car.

Hell like I said above I will probably end up going race gas for this thing too, but when I quote my cars BEST time it will only be what the daily driven setup can do.

-Ian

 

You're right they don't, but their 100 RON translated to our method in the U.S. is 95 R+M/2.

So our 93 octane here would be rated 98 in Japan, two points below their high dollar sweet stuff.

With our winter mixes now though, all bets are off.

 

Ill take over here boys. yes, lets talk autoX or road racing. What do you guys have in terms of that racing?

 

I thought my post went over looked. Just to name a few:
1989 Porsche 944 S-2
1992 Camaro Z28, former SCCA champion
1991 VW Jetta GLI
2002 BMW M3
Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
AWD Talon's
my B5.5 once my suspension is installed
and some more, forgive me if I forgot to mention your car

what do you drive?