well...i hate people almost as much as i hate cars

closeminded? no. biased? no. someone who has had experience with a vast majority of automotive owners and enthusiasts? yes.

in my personal experience, i have come to the conclusion that most german car owners are complete douches and/or toolbags. there are a few that have proven themselves that they arent, but most fit the description to a T.

and if its any difference to you, i dont consider YOU a typical german car owner (still up in the air, but i give most people the benefit of the doubt.) everyone is considered equal to me till they prove they are an ass. i give everyone the same chances, but if they continue to think their shit dont stink, that is when i manage to let them know how rather lacking they are in confidence that they have to have a vehicle to make them feel better about themselves.

*edit* and no, i dont hate people on what they do for a living, to a point. i have a serious dislike for someone that has never worked for what they have, never had something to stand up for, and has never had to learn what its like at the bottom. call me what you will, but if someone is given everything in life, they have never learned the true value of anything.

i know where i have come from, what i have gone through, and what i will do. others probly do also. the main thing i like in someone is their attitude toward life and how things go. if they think their shit is better then mine cause they are white collar and i am blue collar (technically grey....my uniform is grey with black stripes) then that will burn my ass and piss me off. hate them? not really, cause i know that what goes around comes around.

 

I expect to see you the end of September for GT 2005 Harrisonburg Valley.

 

Thanks!!




Now you know why I hang around the import guys.

 

OH, if you enjoy a challenging drive I highly recomend it. Just remember that this road has taken over 200 lives. Respect the road and you'll probably come out alive, get cocky and there's a lot of really big dropoffs and oddly places trees that'll get you... not to mention the 18 wheelers that constantly drive it... check out the crash photos on the link I gave you. It's a fun road. Check it out if you get the chance.

I believe you. But then you're also dealing with someone who really doesn't know how to drive the OTHER car. I just think you're taking the situation to extremes. Another thing to remember is that most people (I don't even know if I can say that... there are so many idiots on the roads today) know how to handle a average car... we know the limits, we know you can also usually put the pedal to the metal and no harm is done (not enough power to hurt yourself with)... whereas in a 500bhp Porsche or a Ferrari or something, the same action of giving it full throttle may throw the car into a spin. Their power can sometimes excede the handeling capabilities of the car... See my point? Sports cars are "harder" to drive that normal cars. It takes more control, more restraint, and more focus to keep them on a track, and you need to know "tricks" like how to "feather" the clutch, or even what gear to be in coming out of a turn.
I'd probably have to say that if you took your average person and told them to make a lap in each car as FAST as they possibly could... you might end up with a faster lap on a dificult enough track in a normal car simply because they'd probably spin out the sports car 10 times before they crossed the finish line.

That can't be true... or there'd be no mechanics in BMW shops

Are you talking about those stupid looking buggies with the spoilers as big as the rest of the vehicle? I tried watching that on TV. I can see where it could be quite challenging, but at the same time... it's so mundane. I'd rather watch them do that through the woods than in a circle. Or at LEAST on a figure 8. Make the bastards turn right for once... that'll throw 'em off. And those aren't really cars... it's more like karting than anything as far as I can tell. (sorry, I don't know enough about this form of racing to comment further)

 

The what? Info please?

 

1st off, sorry for tripple posting here, I know, but it's so hard with all these quotes from different people...

I don't like Shumacher much, F1 is my least favorite of the racing forms I mentioned... but still better than Nascar. And as "Royalty" pointed out, I didn't say they had no skill, I said it's a lazy form of racing. Turning left 1000 times is way to repetative to require anywhere near as much skill as rally driving. Watch a video of what a rally driver does with his/her feet as they go around turns.... it's insane. Every turn is different, not all the same either.

And yes, I'd be dead last in a Nascar race. I'm not a professional driver, and I don't know how to handle those cars, I've never driven one. Guess what compadre... SO WOULD YOU! Given the ammount of training and track time those guys have... I might prove you wrong... but as it stands now, yeah, you're right. Also, I never made a claim to my driving ability... so where did these comments come from?

Not only that, I don't ever care to go anywhere near a nascar track/event since I really, really, really don't like it. Everyone I meet who's REALLY into Nascar is either a crazy, asshole, drunkard, redneck... or someone who wants to be one but can't pull off the accent, ability to crush a case of bud in 1/2 hour, or can't get their mullet to match their flanal shirt. (nothing against rednecks... just the crazy ones).

I also think you're saying these things having never seen a rally or Le Mans race. I'm not trying to hate on Nascar here. I just don't think it's nearly as difficult, and doesn't require nearly the skill these other forms of racing do.

 

i intend to at one point.....
thats where experience and car knowledge comes into play. the thing is, 98% of drivers are complete morons that dont even know how to counter a skid, much less anything else. parallel parking is the extent of their manuevering, and most cant do that right. 1.99% of drivers are "enthusiasts" that know a little more, but their attitude is pretty shitty cause they think they know more then someone that can make a car dance. the other .01% are true works of art behind the wheel.

pretty much.

BMW/Audi/Porsche mechanics are more pompous assholes then their owners. believe me.


again, i like all kinds of racing, but that statement is pretty ignorant. watch Watkins Glen and tell me the same thing. most NASCAR drivers arent the best on a road course, but there are some that will whip some ass on that course. just cause you take a left turn all the time doesnt mean its lazy, or lacking on skill either.

 

bleh. Any turbo european car can gain at least 50hp with just a "chip". The B5 S4 will only go but so fast with it's stock turbos. We in the US, go screwed there again. We should have got the RS4 turbos from the factory. Most of the tuner cars that are fast are running them...and you have to remove the motor to install 'em

 

K04's. and any goddamn german must die for designing that shit.



can you tell i have done one or two?

 

My car's got a K04... but it's also a 1.8T pushing out almost 300bhp. SO.... I beg to differ, I happen to like my turbo.