now I need some ideas about internals. Looking to go all motor but not go to crazy with it. whats everyones suggestion? type r stuff or go with eagle rods and jdm pistons? what kind of compression should I try to shoot for?And what about the valve train? Cams? Please help. want the most bang for the buck!!!!!

 

What's the car for? Track or street? power goals? Budget?

 

agreed. I can give you a nice build out for a drag car. or a nice build out for a street car. but you better have a big budget for the ones in my mind. i can get you to 250whp using all off the shelf parts, but it might take 15k. what are YOUR goals. either set goals, or set boundaries.

 

looking for a mild street car. Something that I can drive back and forth to work with and whoop up on some stangs while im at it. I want it reliable too. Im thinking to do a compression upgrade with some new vsprings and retainers! Dont know how much that will help though. let me know fellas. thanks

 

What Fransico and Thermal are trying to say is that you need a goal.

I see that you want a mild street but...the question you need to think about is how much power and what is your budget? Without the answers...most people are not going to be give you a good answer.

 

I just want a all motor street car. like I said nothing crazy. Prob looking to spend 3000-5000. Im going to do the work my self, of course not the machine shop stuff! hope this helps

 

if your looking for something fairly cheap, and good for an all motor set-up, i got brand new XS power stage II cams and dual valve springs and titanium retainers for a b series vtec head, Everything is BRAND NEW. ill let it all go for $500 bucks maybe 450 if you are really interested. -Bobby

 

Well here's how I would spend your $5k

$1300 - Sleeve the block
$ 200 - balance rotational mass
$ 400 - engine rebuild kit from Honda
$ 700 - for forged rods and pistons
$1500 - for a REAL ported head with upgraded valve train
$ 500 - Stage 2+ cams
$ 300 - Hondata S100

Now I'm sure that I could shave a few dollars of these prices as I came up with them off the cuff. Either way this would be a strong streetable motor and IF put together correctly...could last longer than just to dyno day.

Of course there are more goodies that I would want for a motor like this, but when dealing with a budget...start with what counts most.

Or...you could always buy out someone else who has already start a project like this and ran out of money

 

On a budget...

GSR block
LS crank
ls rods (shot peened)
b16 (pct) pistons
GSR head
Skunk2 IM
CTR cams
ITR TB

I put this together for my lil bro. Wasn't to expensive and would surprise alot of people. I think it yielded close to, if not just over a 12:1 comp. ratio. It was mated to a 4.7 trans which helped alot also!

You could also mill the head to bring up compression a bit, you get into piston to valve clearance issues with too much though. Ecspecially running a ls/vtec setup.

Stock valvetrain will be fine, unless you are needing endurance or 9-10k revs.

 

That's a decent budget build and all, but don't be looking to knock on the 200whp door without more. The two things that I would stress to someone building a motor would have to be...All the power is in the head, and there's no replacement for displacement.