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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Default S2000 Aftermarket clutch..annoyance issues

Okay, so roughly about 5-6000 miles ago I replaced the clutch in my s2000. I used a ACT stage 3 six puk sprung clutch kit with a fidanza flywheel. It bites very hard no doubt and it doesn't slip. I don't have any engagement problems, grinding problems or any thing of that nature but I have some particular annoyances that are making me want to get another clutch kit.


Annoyances are:

Upon decel it sounds like a fucking dumptruck. Its like "wahhhhhhhh wahh wah wahhhhmppp ratttleeeeeeee" I know its a shitty description, but no its not "clutch buzz" I'm pretty sure its the throwout bearing they sent with the kit, I push the clutch pedal in and the noise goes away. But I'm not going to always put the clutch pedal to the floor just to get rid of the noise, I shouldn't have too.

During engagement sometimes, it seems and sounds like the metal rivets are scraping the flywheel. Its like a squealing noise, kinda like a wet tennis shoe on a rainy day in a store with tiles. Only that wet tennis shoe has 1000+ Revolutions Per minute. It's annoying and sometimes scares me that the clutch is just going to shit out. At this point, once money gets a little better I'm really thinking about just buying another clutch kit (aftermarket, because I am going to boost...alot soon)

Also, upon engagement I have clutch chatter (expected) but it seems like the drivetrain is shaking. Its like a train track with a fat ass train coming on it, but in a fast forwarded speed. Everytime I turn, while coasting (like 10mph to about a 45-70 degree right or left turn I hear clicking)

FYI-Nothing is loose externally, I have looked, checked and torqued each and every bolt that I even tampered with. No sensors with clips are rattling around, no o2 sensor is loose, no exhaust bolt is loose and nothing was left off.

Is it something I should be worried about, or is it normal with this shitty clutch company that I will never buy from again? (I've always used comp clutch because ACT seems to have short life expectancy)

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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Default Re: S2000 Aftermarket clutch..annoyance issues

Originally Posted by I spy Psi,No?
Okay, so roughly about 5-6000 miles ago I replaced the clutch in my s2000. I used a ACT stage 3 six puk sprung clutch kit with a fidanza flywheel. It bites very hard no doubt and it doesn't slip. I don't have any engagement problems, grinding problems or any thing of that nature but I have some particular annoyances that are making me want to get another clutch kit.


Annoyances are:

Upon decel it sounds like a fucking dumptruck. Its like "wahhhhhhhh wahh wah wahhhhmppp ratttleeeeeeee" I know its a shitty description, but no its not "clutch buzz" I'm pretty sure its the throwout bearing they sent with the kit, I push the clutch pedal in and the noise goes away. But I'm not going to always put the clutch pedal to the floor just to get rid of the noise, I shouldn't have too.

During engagement sometimes, it seems and sounds like the metal rivets are scraping the flywheel. Its like a squealing noise, kinda like a wet tennis shoe on a rainy day in a store with tiles. Only that wet tennis shoe has 1000+ Revolutions Per minute. It's annoying and sometimes scares me that the clutch is just going to shit out. At this point, once money gets a little better I'm really thinking about just buying another clutch kit (aftermarket, because I am going to boost...alot soon)

Also, upon engagement I have clutch chatter (expected) but it seems like the drivetrain is shaking. Its like a train track with a fat ass train coming on it, but in a fast forwarded speed. Everytime I turn, while coasting (like 10mph to about a 45-70 degree right or left turn I hear clicking)

FYI-Nothing is loose externally, I have looked, checked and torqued each and every bolt that I even tampered with. No sensors with clips are rattling around, no o2 sensor is loose, no exhaust bolt is loose and nothing was left off.

Is it something I should be worried about, or is it normal with this shitty clutch company that I will never buy from again? (I've always used comp clutch because ACT seems to have short life expectancy)
Ok, what your describing is mostly normal....Ive driven 6puck cars alot, and have a twin disk in my current, the sprung hub 6pucks are supposed to be better about chatter, but its not unreasonable, the metal scraping noise could be due to puck material, basically as long as install was correct I wouldnt be concerned, with time you will learn to drive it with the least annoyance possible, shift out of gear to slow down, stop trying to slip the clutch like a stock clutch (pucks chatter ALOT when you try to slip them)

basically it sounds normal for a high capacity clutch, want power? want power holding capacity? sometimes you have to live with it (or get an organic twin disk, hondas wont out torque them)
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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I used to have a six puck as well. Its the normal sound your going to hear. You pay to play and sometimes theres issues you have to face.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Default Re: S2000 Aftermarket clutch..annoyance issues

Originally Posted by RIDING 420A
I used to have a six puck as well. Its the normal sound your going to hear. You pay to play and sometimes theres issues you have to face.
Well, I've always had six puck and four puck clutches, sprung and unsprung, always had chatter but no annoying ass noises. I grew up on aftermarket clutches. It may be just because its in a RWD car, not a FWD and the S2000 has like no sound deadening where the trans is, just bare metal so noise travel is higher than I'm used to I suppose. I'm just one of those picky any type of noise, turn down the radio and drive with caution just to make sure its okay haha.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Why did you use such a high "stage" six puck clutch on a stock S2000?
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Originally Posted by C Ory
Why did you use such a high "stage" six puck clutch on a stock S2000?
I replaced the clutch before I needed lawyers/ect. I had a turbo kit I was going to purchase but then other priorities came up. That's why.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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Default Re: S2000 Aftermarket clutch..annoyance issues

Right on.

The only thing I can tell you to save you some annnoyance, is to downgrade to a "lighter" clutch.
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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Mike, just gimme yer car then you don't have to hear the noise anymore
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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Default Re: S2000 Aftermarket clutch..annoyance issues

Originally Posted by C Ory
Right on.

The only thing I can tell you to save you some annnoyance, is to downgrade to a "lighter" clutch.
I really just wanted to make sure it was normal. But, I'm more than likely going to buy a stock setup because for the next two years I'm going to have to be low key and would rather ride in comfort/silence. So I'll just focus on other things and build a setup on the side and put it all in when the time is right.
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Default Re: S2000 Aftermarket clutch..annoyance issues



I have a lightly used stock clutch/flywheel at my shop. The disc still measures at 7.1mm on my micrometer. We can work out something really cheap, I'm sure.



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