Differences in s13 ka24de and s14 ka24de?
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I have an s12 and am doing a ka swap. I have a s14 motor a s13 5speed trans and s13 ecu and harness. Can I do the swap with this stuff? What are the main differences in the s13 and s14 ka24de motor? Any info would be awsome
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I mean any info on the swap would be awesome like what to watch out for. I don't think that u needed to be an ass about it. I was just trying to get a little info before I started. Come on help a brotha out.... Lol
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It would be easier to get a whole swap. Main difference between the s14 ka's is the dizzy. S13 came with a coil ignitor to provided spark. Some s14 did come with coil ignitors, but not many. Easiest way would be to find a full swap lile spindrift said. The wiring will also be different. You have lots to learn grasshopper.
PM DAVIS12......He has done this swap a few times I think.
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i have a sohc ka with a s14 trans in my s12
not sure about a s13 ecu and harness on a s14 because of the ig coil and distributor... were talking like 30 bux at the yard to get the right ecu and harness but if it plugs up go for it
pics of s12? where you located
basic rundown of a ka swap. because im awesome and i documented it
custom work needed to be down
1. trans mount
2. trans shifter sits 2 inches back, gotta cut a hole for it on the car
3. some wiring, like 7 wires
for DOHC ka's s12 power steering lines bolt in. for sohc, you gotta bend sohc ones and relocate your resivor to the other side
heres some easy steps
pull ca20e and throw away
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_1258.jpg)
remove engine harness (pink) leave the chassis harness (green)
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/enginebay.jpg)
clean
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_1275.jpg)
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_1277.jpg)
go buy a ka from someones shed for 40 bux
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2060.jpg)
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2061.jpg)
get S13 motor mounts
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2110.jpg)
cut hole for trans
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2149.jpg)
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2167.jpg)
trans mount, do what you want. heres what i did i was low on tools at the time so it was ghetto
CA20E MOUNT
![](https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2151.jpg)
well i ripped the ca20e mount off the transmission, then tore everything off it down to the base,
s13 MOUNT - some aftermarket one
![](https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2150.jpg)
i did the same with the ka24 mount
obviously the poly mount wont fit correctly,
![](https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2152.jpg)
so what i do is i grind the shit out of my mount all the way down FLAT for the poly mount
![](https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2153.jpg)
SO,
then
i use washers, or metal plates, to shimmey it to whatever height i prefer, too keep it level
![](https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2155.jpg)
first, i need a drill to drill holes for the poly mount 2 fit though
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2166.jpg)
DRIVESHAFT
rear half S12, front half s13..... jdm tyte
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s13's ECU sits on the opposite side of s12..
so when you get your wires your gonna have to go from the drivers side MAF sensor area and bridge the wires about 5 feet to the passenger side, which i used my glovebox at the time
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2682.jpg)
not sure about a s13 ecu and harness on a s14 because of the ig coil and distributor... were talking like 30 bux at the yard to get the right ecu and harness but if it plugs up go for it
pics of s12? where you located
basic rundown of a ka swap. because im awesome and i documented it
custom work needed to be down
1. trans mount
2. trans shifter sits 2 inches back, gotta cut a hole for it on the car
3. some wiring, like 7 wires
for DOHC ka's s12 power steering lines bolt in. for sohc, you gotta bend sohc ones and relocate your resivor to the other side
heres some easy steps
pull ca20e and throw away
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_1258.jpg)
remove engine harness (pink) leave the chassis harness (green)
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/enginebay.jpg)
clean
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_1275.jpg)
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_1277.jpg)
go buy a ka from someones shed for 40 bux
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2060.jpg)
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2061.jpg)
get S13 motor mounts
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2110.jpg)
cut hole for trans
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2149.jpg)
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2167.jpg)
trans mount, do what you want. heres what i did i was low on tools at the time so it was ghetto
CA20E MOUNT
![](https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2151.jpg)
well i ripped the ca20e mount off the transmission, then tore everything off it down to the base,
s13 MOUNT - some aftermarket one
![](https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2150.jpg)
i did the same with the ka24 mount
obviously the poly mount wont fit correctly,
![](https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2152.jpg)
so what i do is i grind the shit out of my mount all the way down FLAT for the poly mount
![](https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2153.jpg)
SO,
then
i use washers, or metal plates, to shimmey it to whatever height i prefer, too keep it level
![](https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2155.jpg)
first, i need a drill to drill holes for the poly mount 2 fit though
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2166.jpg)
DRIVESHAFT
rear half S12, front half s13..... jdm tyte
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2188.jpg)
s13's ECU sits on the opposite side of s12..
so when you get your wires your gonna have to go from the drivers side MAF sensor area and bridge the wires about 5 feet to the passenger side, which i used my glovebox at the time
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2682.jpg)
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2686.jpg)
Last edited by David S12; 11-08-2009 at 06:06 AM.
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also gotta rewire your ALT and oil pressure plug... just clip them off of a s13 chassis harness at the yard and wire in
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i do beleive s12 slave cylinder works but just go get a 15 dollar s13 one at autozone
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SPEEDOMETER
s12's are cable driven, s13 are eltric, swap s12 gear onto s13 trans
BLUE IS S12
AND RED is S13
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oils n shit!
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pop it in
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/0108091348.jpg)
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FUEL PUMP WIRING
all the relays/ wiring is on club-s12.org bro. but i hard wired my pump and fans and stuff
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then do the extras
make up cool suspension
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2819.jpg)
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add jdm wheels, weld diff. go drift
![](https://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs242.snc1/8927_143172404555_826709555_2441729_2386828_n.jpg)
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once you completed, congrats u get a a+
heres the s13 dohc swap im doing now on a 84 coupe
![](http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3655.jpg)
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i dont think i could have made this swap more easier for any s12 owner
pm me for my aim or something, im always online except for work, and have tons of info with these pos nissans if you have ?'s
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i do beleive s12 slave cylinder works but just go get a 15 dollar s13 one at autozone
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2218.jpg)
SPEEDOMETER
s12's are cable driven, s13 are eltric, swap s12 gear onto s13 trans
BLUE IS S12
AND RED is S13
![](https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2227.jpg)
![](https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2228.jpg)
oils n shit!
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2232.jpg)
pop it in
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/0108091348.jpg)
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2260.jpg)
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2265.jpg)
FUEL PUMP WIRING
all the relays/ wiring is on club-s12.org bro. but i hard wired my pump and fans and stuff
![](https://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6838/1002309od8.jpg)
![](https://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7741/1002307fz8.jpg)
then do the extras
make up cool suspension
![](http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2819.jpg)
![](https://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs040.snc3/12740_166712014555_826709555_2609865_6255440_n.jpg)
add jdm wheels, weld diff. go drift
![](https://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs242.snc1/8927_143172404555_826709555_2441729_2386828_n.jpg)
![](https://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs242.snc1/8927_133565044555_826709555_2345083_2825773_n.jpg)
![](https://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs244.snc1/9133_160922334555_826709555_2566610_1425195_n.jpg)
once you completed, congrats u get a a+
heres the s13 dohc swap im doing now on a 84 coupe
![](http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3655.jpg)
![](http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3656.jpg)
![](http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo119/whatrwedoingnow/102_3657.jpg)
i dont think i could have made this swap more easier for any s12 owner
pm me for my aim or something, im always online except for work, and have tons of info with these pos nissans if you have ?'s
Last edited by David S12; 11-08-2009 at 06:11 AM.
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Thanks alot bro. I'm located in va beach. So what ur saying is to get a complete swap and it will be easier. Thanks for all the info and pics. I'll try to get some pics posted soon. Thanks again guys!
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well getting a complete swap is preferred
if you already have a motor, then go to the yard and get the right harness and ecu
i recommend you use a automatic ecu though, if its manual
if you already have a motor, then go to the yard and get the right harness and ecu
i recommend you use a automatic ecu though, if its manual
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I did have to be an ass about it actually. You stupid asses come in here asking to be spoonfed info, God forbid you go and do a little research for yourself.
But hey good luck with your swap!
But hey good luck with your swap!
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well hey man thanks for the good luck. and as for research i have done alot just had a few un answered questions. and since i was posting from my iphone i kinda had to be quick and kinda vague. but i understand about people just looking for quick answers....so i see where u are coming from. just next time u dont always have to say/ type everything that is on ur mind.....but thanks for the help bro i can use all i can get
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