Creeds Airstrip: Track Planning
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Track Planning:
NTBA=needs to be addressed
Green text= Go, or on track (pun intended)
Blue text= issue needs to be discussed
Orange text= situation looks possible
red text= Defnite "No Go"
Track & Maintenance related:
Safety of spectators and racers: Drag Strip protocol
Safety requirements: Drag Strip/VIR-like protocol (ie TRACK)
Insurance, liability/waivers: K&K Insurance (as of now) This is a Go.
Wrecker Service: NTBA
Track Maintenance: NTBA
Vehicle inspections: SCCA Code (will be done by VIR standards)
Security: Sheriff will be used on any Track/Race Day
Road Course Ideas: Send them to me.
Property Management: *slowsilverteg*
Business Plan: Anyone qualified to write one?
SCCA: will only consider backing with business plan
WAVY TV10: Will help once we are organized
Official Listed Owner of Creeds Airfield: *slowsilverteg*
Heliport Ownership and Management from official FAA records
Ownership: Publicly-owned
Owner: VIRGINIA BEACH POLICE DEPT.
PUBLIC SAFETY BLDG.
VIRGINIA BEACH, VA 23456
Phone 757-427-4831
Manager: C.F. MONK
PUBLIC SAFETY BLDG
VIRGINIA BEACH, VA 23456
Phone 757-427-4831 -----CALLED as of 13:29- Left message
Proper Plan presented to VA Beach Police: Contact is currently *clipsNstock*
Curfew/Noise Ordinance: Needs to be addressed
EPA/Pollution Standards:I called them today---Left messsage
Actual Desire for Road Course? Poll is up now
Actual Desire for Drag Strip? Poll is up now
OFF-Road Area: Yes- Far Left of Track-Dirt only entrance
Open Day Entertainment: Blasko
Performance Shop onsite: No
Safety: We will follow the guidelines VIR does. Its worked, and continues to work.
Helmet Requirement: SA2000 or higher.
-----------------Construction-----------------
Electrician-*roadrcr82*
Building- roofing and construction- DeepFreeze
Paving & Construction Contractors
*Roads must be repaved. No if, ands or buts- anyone with contractor status-PLEASE chime in to help.
WE NEED A 3D Computer Modeling Artist: Anyone here with the skills?
-Roundtree construction
-Action Paving and Construction, Inc.
-Asphalt Roads & Materials, Inc.
-Basic Construction Co., LLC
-Branche Industries
-Contractors Paving Co., Inc.
-Excel Paving Corporation
-Peninsula Paving, Inc.
-SB Ballard, Inc.
(thanks for assistance from *Skrape & 04_Blazin*)
1. Milling - measured in SF/SY
2. Roll - SF
3. Stone 27A Base - CY
4. Asphalt
5. Tack Coat
+ around 5-10% for overhead/profit
+ more for removal of the waste from the milling
-------------------------------------------------
Land/Zoning: Total Cost of Ownership Report (anyone a business major?)
Personnel costs: NTBA
Zoning: NTBA Is this business, commercial class A? residential (someone needs to find out) Try contacting City of VA Beach Building Permits.
Goals already accomplished: We want a safe place to Race and possibly hang out, or do we want to just own the land and do nothing with it? My point- if this isn’t going to become a full fledged track, its pointless. Hangout spots are all over the place- we don’t have nearly enough tracks. We have the space to build anything reasonable!
What we already know: We need backing from shops- anyone getting on this? Maybe someone who works nights? Visit some shops.
Facts:
Actual measurements:
The measurements are taken with the Main Hangers angled Right from the main road.
North -> Southwest Strip is 2541 Ft long - Plenty for a Drag strip.
Main Strip-> 2508 Ft - again, plenty for a 1/4 mile Drag Strip. THIS IS IDEAL simply because you can turn LEFT and Exit the facility, or get back in line. Width 132 ft. minus 48 feet for two lane track. 84 Ft left for Road Course lane.
East -> West strip - 2540 Ft. still plenty of space.
Hanger Lane-> 2244 Ft. plenty for parking and general BS.
Total land FROM the scale map says 3000x3400 FT (could be off)
Coordinates- UTM 18 (36.6056°N, 76.0048°W) (WGS84/NAD83)
List of possible sponsors- I do not know most of these people personally- some of them I will talk to *myself*.
*Elite Auto Collision Center- willing to sponsor with Business Plan*
*Hectors Tires and Rims*
BAPGeon
Pep Boys
Merchants/Tire Kingdom
Meineke Muffler
Tire House and Rims
Lee's Tire
Tread Quarters- Dean
Race organization: SCCA - waiting on drive, Seven City Scions - waiting on Gmoney, SCC Corvette Club - drive
Tidewater MOPAR
Genros
*Updated
Abacus Racing
SevenCityRacing.com is onboard
Direct Performance- Jimmy
Millenium Motorsports
AutoDemics
*Parts House- willing to sponsor under proper business plan*
Performance Unlimited
MAS
All Aspects Motorsports
Street Motorsports- official supporter- To0C0oL
Discount Autosound
Go-Ho autoaudio
Sound Shop
Autosound & Security
USA Discounters
Mercedes-Benz Philips Oldsmobile
Checkered Flag BMW/Honda/Volkswagen
Hall Honda/Acura = Opted Out
Priority Acura
Beach/Barton Ford - waiting on To0Co0L
Bay chevy
RK Chevy/Subaru - Brett (works as Manager, Subaru Dept)
*PM ME when you have definite info from a possible shop/sponsor!!!
ANYONE who can help out definitely-PM ME!
I am helping with the idea a Road course is also a primary Goal in this grand design.
6392465 - Rob
Everyone does not need to call a company- but I do need Ideas and direct confirmation of implied support. ie. scca is interested-as long as we have a business plan. Yet- I see no one offering to write one up. Out of all the college students we have on Drag and none of you are business majors??
NTBA=needs to be addressed
Green text= Go, or on track (pun intended)
Blue text= issue needs to be discussed
Orange text= situation looks possible
red text= Defnite "No Go"
Track & Maintenance related:
Safety of spectators and racers: Drag Strip protocol
Safety requirements: Drag Strip/VIR-like protocol (ie TRACK)
Insurance, liability/waivers: K&K Insurance (as of now) This is a Go.
Wrecker Service: NTBA
Track Maintenance: NTBA
Vehicle inspections: SCCA Code (will be done by VIR standards)
Security: Sheriff will be used on any Track/Race Day
Road Course Ideas: Send them to me.
Property Management: *slowsilverteg*
Business Plan: Anyone qualified to write one?
SCCA: will only consider backing with business plan
WAVY TV10: Will help once we are organized
Official Listed Owner of Creeds Airfield: *slowsilverteg*
Heliport Ownership and Management from official FAA records
Ownership: Publicly-owned
Owner: VIRGINIA BEACH POLICE DEPT.
PUBLIC SAFETY BLDG.
VIRGINIA BEACH, VA 23456
Phone 757-427-4831
Manager: C.F. MONK
PUBLIC SAFETY BLDG
VIRGINIA BEACH, VA 23456
Phone 757-427-4831 -----CALLED as of 13:29- Left message
Proper Plan presented to VA Beach Police: Contact is currently *clipsNstock*
Curfew/Noise Ordinance: Needs to be addressed
EPA/Pollution Standards:I called them today---Left messsage
Actual Desire for Road Course? Poll is up now
Actual Desire for Drag Strip? Poll is up now
OFF-Road Area: Yes- Far Left of Track-Dirt only entrance
Open Day Entertainment: Blasko
Performance Shop onsite: No
Safety: We will follow the guidelines VIR does. Its worked, and continues to work.
Helmet Requirement: SA2000 or higher.
-----------------Construction-----------------
Electrician-*roadrcr82*
Building- roofing and construction- DeepFreeze
Paving & Construction Contractors
*Roads must be repaved. No if, ands or buts- anyone with contractor status-PLEASE chime in to help.
WE NEED A 3D Computer Modeling Artist: Anyone here with the skills?
-Roundtree construction
-Action Paving and Construction, Inc.
-Asphalt Roads & Materials, Inc.
-Basic Construction Co., LLC
-Branche Industries
-Contractors Paving Co., Inc.
-Excel Paving Corporation
-Peninsula Paving, Inc.
-SB Ballard, Inc.
(thanks for assistance from *Skrape & 04_Blazin*)
1. Milling - measured in SF/SY
2. Roll - SF
3. Stone 27A Base - CY
4. Asphalt
5. Tack Coat
+ around 5-10% for overhead/profit
+ more for removal of the waste from the milling
-------------------------------------------------
Land/Zoning: Total Cost of Ownership Report (anyone a business major?)
Personnel costs: NTBA
Zoning: NTBA Is this business, commercial class A? residential (someone needs to find out) Try contacting City of VA Beach Building Permits.
Goals already accomplished: We want a safe place to Race and possibly hang out, or do we want to just own the land and do nothing with it? My point- if this isn’t going to become a full fledged track, its pointless. Hangout spots are all over the place- we don’t have nearly enough tracks. We have the space to build anything reasonable!
What we already know: We need backing from shops- anyone getting on this? Maybe someone who works nights? Visit some shops.
Facts:
Actual measurements:
The measurements are taken with the Main Hangers angled Right from the main road.
North -> Southwest Strip is 2541 Ft long - Plenty for a Drag strip.
Main Strip-> 2508 Ft - again, plenty for a 1/4 mile Drag Strip. THIS IS IDEAL simply because you can turn LEFT and Exit the facility, or get back in line. Width 132 ft. minus 48 feet for two lane track. 84 Ft left for Road Course lane.
East -> West strip - 2540 Ft. still plenty of space.
Hanger Lane-> 2244 Ft. plenty for parking and general BS.
Total land FROM the scale map says 3000x3400 FT (could be off)
Coordinates- UTM 18 (36.6056°N, 76.0048°W) (WGS84/NAD83)
List of possible sponsors- I do not know most of these people personally- some of them I will talk to *myself*.
*Elite Auto Collision Center- willing to sponsor with Business Plan*
*Hectors Tires and Rims*
BAPGeon
Pep Boys
Merchants/Tire Kingdom
Meineke Muffler
Tire House and Rims
Lee's Tire
Tread Quarters- Dean
Race organization: SCCA - waiting on drive, Seven City Scions - waiting on Gmoney, SCC Corvette Club - drive
Tidewater MOPAR
Genros
*Updated
Abacus Racing
SevenCityRacing.com is onboard
Direct Performance- Jimmy
Millenium Motorsports
AutoDemics
*Parts House- willing to sponsor under proper business plan*
Performance Unlimited
MAS
All Aspects Motorsports
Street Motorsports- official supporter- To0C0oL
Discount Autosound
Go-Ho autoaudio
Sound Shop
Autosound & Security
USA Discounters
Mercedes-Benz Philips Oldsmobile
Checkered Flag BMW/Honda/Volkswagen
Hall Honda/Acura = Opted Out
Priority Acura
Beach/Barton Ford - waiting on To0Co0L
Bay chevy
RK Chevy/Subaru - Brett (works as Manager, Subaru Dept)
*PM ME when you have definite info from a possible shop/sponsor!!!
ANYONE who can help out definitely-PM ME!
I am helping with the idea a Road course is also a primary Goal in this grand design.
6392465 - Rob
Everyone does not need to call a company- but I do need Ideas and direct confirmation of implied support. ie. scca is interested-as long as we have a business plan. Yet- I see no one offering to write one up. Out of all the college students we have on Drag and none of you are business majors??
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Just talked with my General Manager here at Hall Honda.
Mr. Hall use to sponsor some races at langley. one of our drivers crashed and apparently there was some sort of dispute going on. dont know the details but now Mr. Hall has put an end to sponsoring anything having to do with racing of any kind.
I tried, wish there was more I could do cause this is a great idea.
Mr. Hall use to sponsor some races at langley. one of our drivers crashed and apparently there was some sort of dispute going on. dont know the details but now Mr. Hall has put an end to sponsoring anything having to do with racing of any kind.
I tried, wish there was more I could do cause this is a great idea.
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how much is repaving all that going to cost?
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Originally Posted by acurateg25
how much is repaving all that going to cost?
Width of pavement should average 24-30 Ft wide.
Can you get a price?
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Umm.. this is never going to happen.
Please stop wasting everyone's time by making threads about it and getting the n00b's hopes up.
Thanks.
Please stop wasting everyone's time by making threads about it and getting the n00b's hopes up.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by spic
Umm.. this is never going to happen.
Please stop wasting everyone's time by making threads about it and getting the n00b's hopes up.
Thanks.
Please stop wasting everyone's time by making threads about it and getting the n00b's hopes up.
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