I have yet to see a Neon run 13's. Magazine times don't count. You talk like your cars are the shit, wooptie fucking doo a 14 second Peon, and a 13.5 second trailer park Formula. I should really be impressed With the right tune, I'll be right there with the Formula, and with a stall I can say goodbye. And that is with an Autotragic and a good 50 less hp.