durhrhr... i hate when people throw out stupid arguments like this. i drive a 16 year old car to work every day, i know what it's like. i also drive my wife's '05 almost every weekend. it's a lot different. someone who's in the market for an '06 Si isn't going to be comparing it to 15 year old swapped hondas, 15 year old swapped 240s, or 15 year old built fox bodies. they're going to be comparing it to SRT-4s, cobalt SSs, WRXes, etc. and in that regard, it's probably the slowest of the bunch, but it's on the same scale (they're all between 200 and 230 hp, right?) if there were an '06 nissan 240sx that cost 19k and ran 12s, well, then it would be everyone's right to go around calling the new Si slow. but it's reasonably competitive in its class (when everyone's stock), and it should be a pretty nice car as far as sport compacts go... fun to drive, reasonably reliable, comfortable, good resale value (not that i've driven it, but if it's anything like every other civic made since the 70s, these should hold true). personally, i really like them, but i would never consider it a replacement for my crx... just a nice alternative to the creaky, leaky, bumpy shitbox that i also love.

and 10 years from now, when WRXs are like DSMs, and 8th gen civics are like 5th gen civics, we'll have all kinds of stupid fights about the same things. personally, i predict more V6 swaps in civics.