Can't decide...2007 Suzuki GSX-R1000 or the Yamaha YZF-R1

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Apr 4, 2007 | 07:21 PM

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professorman

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Re: Can't decide...2007 Suzuki GSX-R1000 or the Yamaha YZF-R1

Read some of the post that he had made in his first post. It will give some idea of the comparison ride wise between a liter bike and a slow bike (R6 is still pretty fast). He had some real world reviews of the R1 in it too that you would not see in a magazine.

http://katriders.com/forums/viewtopi...918&highlight=

Not trying to bash you or anything. I am still a newb after 1 1/2 year of riding. The fastest bike I have ridden is a CBR 600. That was still WAYYYY WAYY fast.

Apr 4, 2007 | 07:27 PM

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Re: Can't decide...2007 Suzuki GSX-R1000 or the Yamaha YZF-R1

you wont have as much fun on the R1 as on the R6 simply because the 600 will be more forgiving, you dont wanna ride around being scared of your bike all the time cause thats no fun.

Apr 4, 2007 | 07:37 PM

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you wont have as much fun on the R1 as on the R6 simply because the 600 will be more forgiving, you dont wanna ride around being scared of your bike all the time cause thats no fun.

Yea, I've heard that and that's probably one of the best things I've heard so far to make me a lean towards the R6 more. Thanks!

Apr 4, 2007 | 07:54 PM

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Yea, I've heard that and that's probably one of the best things I've heard so far to make me a lean towards the R6 more. Thanks!

how old r u...if your not over the age of 55 then why act like you dont have time to upgrade...my guess is your in your 20's...man you got all the time in the world to learn and upgrade, you will have more fun learning on a 600 then a 1000, plus why learn how to ride on something that can put you on your ass way easier then a 600..Yea a 600 can easily kill you too, but damn dude a 1000 doesnt just take maturity, it takes experience in all differnet kind of situations, people like to rush into the litre bikes like its a race, im gonna take my sweet ol time before owning a litre bike, its like rushing through puberty, everyone wants to get older but once your old your like "damn i wish i would of enjoyed my younger years instead of worryin about being old", one of the best days of my life was learning on my sv650S, and i can say if i would of had a 1000 it probably wouldnt of been as fun.

Apr 4, 2007 | 08:01 PM

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Re: Can't decide...2007 Suzuki GSX-R1000 or the Yamaha YZF-R1

I took horseback riding class last summer. There was one horse named "Angel" that was ALWAYS mad. Everytime you go close, she looks like she was about to kick you. During the summer, she kicked 3 people flat on their butts, she ran away with 1 person, she jumped a gate with 1 person. I was about to file a complaint to my school, because it is pure stupidity to require us to ride ALL the horses including that one to pass the horseback riding class. No one liked that horse, and no one learnt anythign with that horse, because we all spent more time worrying if she was going to kick us than learning good horse riding skills. Even a 300+lbs football player was afraid of her. Was definately a scarey feeling to be riding a angry horse.

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Apr 4, 2007 | 08:34 PM

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Re: Can't decide...2007 Suzuki GSX-R1000 or the Yamaha YZF-R1

I've ridden alot of bikes in the past. R6, 929, R1, F4i, gsxr600, 636 and dirtbikes too. Although, it is fun to have all that power at your disposal, you really don't need it for street riding. There's plenty of power in the 600 class. Both bikes will wheelie off the line before you know it and you can die just as easily on a 600 as you can on a bigger bike. You just have to have self control and believe me, you will give into temptation alot easier than you think. How many post have I read or heard from someone where some writes or says that they have a level head and are mature and will respect the bike, and not do anything dangerous. And then a few months later in a forum he/she brags about the fastest he/she has taken the bike on the streets, 150, 170 mph.... So, to say you have a level head and will not do anything crazy and take it easy is already a big lie.

Most people do agree, including me, that you can learn to ride better faster on a 600 first than trying to learn on a liter bike first.
With that said, the R1 and R6 are bother very beautiful bikes, and I will never deny anyone the privilege to own one based on his/her experience. Get whatever you like, but please keep in mind the advice above. You won't be disappointed with which ever bike you choose, but you might or might not regret your decision later on in life.

Also, I have notice that alot of people who jump to liter bikes for a first bike or have relatively little experience seems to do it because of their ego, the little pee-pee syndrome.

Apr 4, 2007 | 08:37 PM

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I took horseback riding class last summer. There was one horse named "Angel" that was ALWAYS mad. Everytime you go close, she looks like she was about to kick you. During the summer, she kicked 3 people flat on their butts, she ran away with 1 person, she jumped a gate with 1 person. I was about to file a complaint to my school, because it is pure stupidity to require us to ride ALL the horses including that one to pass the horseback riding class. No one liked that horse, and no one learnt anythign with that horse, because we all spent more time worrying if she was going to kick us than learning good horse riding skills. Even a 300+lbs football player was afriad of her. Was definately a scarey feeling to br riding a angry horse.

haha, best analogy ever

Apr 4, 2007 | 08:50 PM

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Re: Can't decide...2007 Suzuki GSX-R1000 or the Yamaha YZF-R1

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I'm not trying to be ignorant, but you can't use DJ Kale (RIP) as an example. He was drinking and therefore, that cannot be used to persuade anyone to not get the R1; the same could happen on any bike (hell, a bicycle).

I'm definitely listening and comprehending everyone's suggestions. I went to a local shop today to look at the 07 R1 and R6. I love both bikes and yes I've ridden before but I'm definitely a beginner. Even so, with my understanding that the R1 has almost twice the displacement of the R6 and more horses than my car, I keep saying to myself that I should get what I want to get which I'm leaning toward the R1; the only reason I'm even considering the R1 is because I feel I could control myself and the RPMs low until I gain experience on the bike. I'm not the kind of person to disregard the bikes performance and "think" I know how to handle it. I definitely want to be a safe, respected rider and learn more and more with the R1.

Do you guys really think I should just forget about the R1 and stick to the R6? I've heard several people tell me that they started on an R1 and did fine. Is the risk worth it for an intelligent person? They are both extremely fast and both require control and maturity. If I'm going to take the chance of getting an R6, why not take the chance of getting an R1 if they both require extreme control and maturity?

Please don't get me wrong; I'm not fighting your opinions. I just want the straight facts and I want my point to be considered if it makes sense.

Thanks again guys for your continued help in my decision. Hopefully soon I'll be riding with the locals.

Get what makes you happy. If you respect the bike you will be just fine. If you know you are too tempted to gun it and race around you should really probably go with something like ninja 500. The R1 and the R6 will both dump you if you nail the throttle from a standstill the 500 will not unless your real real dumb. Quite frankly, it is not the bike that kills the rider it is the rider that kills the rider or the driver who kills the rider. An R1 is not a vicious new rider killing machine. I started on a 500 and seeing how I abused that I am glad I started on a 500 because I know if I had something more powerful the first few weeks I had my bike I would have ended up in jail for speeding, or a statistic. Now I feel ready for a 600cc machine. Personally I would buy the r6 because I think next to an r1 it is less likely to get stolen. As far as the technology incorporated into both bikes I think it is about equal besides the adjustable velocity stacks on the R1. They are both equally as sexy to me. I also know there is no reason for me to be traveling at 186 miles an hour anywhere. An r6 would be just fine for me. I guess it really comes down to the money you want to spend.

Apr 5, 2007 | 01:38 PM

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Re: Can't decide...2007 Suzuki GSX-R1000 or the Yamaha YZF-R1

Is there power of the R1 the only reason why I should not get that first? If the R1 was exactly the same but had the R6 engine, is there any other difference that would not be good for a beginner rider?