Return of the pony cars
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Re: Return of the pony cars
all GTO's are 2 doors, not 4 doors
and you can get a V8 Grand Prix now
when the G8 is released the Grand Prix will be no more,
the new GTO's will be on the new Camaro chassis
the G8 is the Holden Commodore and the new Camaro and GTO will be from the Holden Monaro which is a smaller version of the Commodore chassis
and you can get a V8 Grand Prix now
when the G8 is released the Grand Prix will be no more,
the new GTO's will be on the new Camaro chassis
the G8 is the Holden Commodore and the new Camaro and GTO will be from the Holden Monaro which is a smaller version of the Commodore chassis
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From: Arlington
Re: Return of the pony cars
Neither you, or I know how much they're going to weigh, but I guarantee they'll weigh more than 3400. Not sure how you considered that right around average when the last and current generation of each car I mentioned weigh more than 3400.
Obviously I'm going to bring up points against domestic pony cars, that's what this fucking thread is about.
Obviously I'm going to bring up points against domestic pony cars, that's what this fucking thread is about.
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Re: Return of the pony cars
5)I literally LOL'd on the coment of the GT500. So you're saying that GM and Dodge need to hurry up and slap body kits and a huge mark-up for a stock basemodel V8 in order to compete? Doubtful. Of course I'm being sarcastic to a degree, but honestly what does the GT500 offer besides looks? Everything I've heard about the car is that it's completely overrated and way overpriced for what you get.
For $42K MSRP, that's not a bad deal. However the stealerships are the ones that have priced it into Z06 territory and beyond and that alone makes it a shitty deal. For the money the Z06 is the best thing on 4 wheels and when you price the GT500 at the same level, you get screwed.
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From: kansas shitty
Re: Return of the pony cars
Somehow I missed this. No it's not, the G8 will be a RWD V8 4-door. That sounds a lot more like a GTO than a FWD V6 Grand Prix.
I also agree that the new ponies will weigh in over 3,400, but I honestly believe the Camaro will at least weigh less than 3,800 for a mildly equipped coupe (and I'd be willing to bet that a barebones factory coupe can weigh less than 3,600)...the convertible will weigh more, and obviously if you start throwing in every option available it's going to start stacking quickly.
By the way, my days of taking shit too seriously are way over...I'm enjoying the discussion, and obviously my first post was to stir the shitpot up...and it's great having the Ford, Dodge, and GM guys in here finally able to discuss our cars like it means something again.
And of course the import guys throwing in their two cents about domestics weighing too much yadda yaddda is a beautiful thing to see again.
I'm just happy to admit that I've done it all, and anyone who knows my vehicle history knows that I have dipped my hands in a bit of everything (except for Dodge, I'm allowed my one sinful bias).
I also agree that the new ponies will weigh in over 3,400, but I honestly believe the Camaro will at least weigh less than 3,800 for a mildly equipped coupe (and I'd be willing to bet that a barebones factory coupe can weigh less than 3,600)...the convertible will weigh more, and obviously if you start throwing in every option available it's going to start stacking quickly.
By the way, my days of taking shit too seriously are way over...I'm enjoying the discussion, and obviously my first post was to stir the shitpot up...and it's great having the Ford, Dodge, and GM guys in here finally able to discuss our cars like it means something again.
And of course the import guys throwing in their two cents about domestics weighing too much yadda yaddda is a beautiful thing to see again.
I'm just happy to admit that I've done it all, and anyone who knows my vehicle history knows that I have dipped my hands in a bit of everything (except for Dodge, I'm allowed my one sinful bias).
Don't be suprised if you see a new GTO or Trans Am concept at the 2008 Detroit Autoshow. The G8 would have been named Grand Prix, but the bigwigs decided that the name Grand Prix is tired and becoming less and less appealing to buyers. G8 was introduced (much like the G5 and G6) to get people's heads turning like 'Wow, Pontiac is finally bringing some excitement back'.
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Re: Return of the pony cars
5)I literally LOL'd on the coment of the GT500. So you're saying that GM and Dodge need to hurry up and slap body kits and a huge mark-up for a stock basemodel V8 in order to compete? Doubtful. Of course I'm being sarcastic to a degree, but honestly what does the GT500 offer besides looks? Everything I've heard about the car is that it's completely overrated and way overpriced for what you get.
So yes, Dodge and Chevy both have catching up to do, as they're both coming the party a lil late. It will be very interesting to see what happens when all of these cars are on the road.
