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Ya craddock is pretty much shitty but not totally bad. And those facts dont say anything about the # of projects in the city and they do say they poverty rate is a bit higher in norfolk. Those results are from 05 and dont really state to much except the citys are damn near neck and neack in those categories, which should be expected in my opinion. Portsmouth used to be alot worse too. It has come along way and is still gettting cleaned up.
You are talking about a minor percent difference between the two cities for poverty, but a large difference in property value. Your opinion was Norfolk has more projects, but you haven't showed the evidence you are so quick to ask for.
I looked for 2006 data but didn’t find it quickly, so I presented you with 2005 data.
The only reason that Norfolk might have more “bad” looking areas is the population is double that of Portsmouth.
As far as I know, Norfolk doesn't have any more projects. Projects are government owned housing for low-income tenants. There is no rent and there is only a supervisor as opposed to a landlord.
You mean across from the zoo. Behind the zoo and closer to the water is actually a pretty nice area.
It's funny, but I drive the back way from my place on Mil Hwy to Layfette Park and it's shitty until you hit the Layfette neighboorhood and then it's shitty again when you cross Gramby. I should have orientated my orginal post better.
I've been all around MacArther and I haven't seen any "projects"
It's funny, but I drive the back way from my place on Mil Hwy to Layfette Park and it's shitty until you hit the Layfette neighboorhood and then it's shitty again when you cross Gramby. I should have orientated my orginal post better.
I've been all around MacArther and I haven't seen any "projects"
There are projects adjacent from the scope and there are some right behind the mcdonalds on st pauls. Both are within half mile from Mcarthur mall.
. Your opinion was Norfolk has more projects, but you haven't showed the evidence you are so quick to ask for.
The only reason that Norfolk might have more “bad” looking areas is the population is double that of Portsmouth.
I dont know the names of these places but there are some off brambleton right across from the scope, some behind the shooping center on saint pauls (behind mcdonalds and abc store), there is another set behind the Fresh Pride on Church st, and yet another as soon as you get off the tidewater drive exit coming out of the tunnel. Thats 4 and I can only think of three in Portsmouth.
I dont know the names of these places but there are some off brambleton right across from the scope, some behind the shooping center on saint pauls (behind mcdonalds and abc store), there is another set behind the Fresh Pride on Church st, and yet another as soon as you get off the tidewater drive exit coming out of the tunnel. Thats 4 and I can only think of three in Portsmouth.
I am giving you facts. You are naming places without facts to how many units are in the buildings you are comparing. Find that out and let me know if you want to compare 3 and 4. I am not saying Norfolk doesn't have its share, I just don't think it is more than Portsmouth.
Throw in the fact that Norfolk has 230+ thousand people and Portsmouth has 100+ thousand people and Portsmouth starts looking like it has more bad areas per person according to your argument of 3 and 4 areas.
Last edited by SpeedJunkie; Sep 10, 2007 at 07:20 AM.
I call it a shitty neighborhood, maybe even a ghetto, but it's not a project.
Im not 100% sure so you may be right but I thought that these places were owned by the government (local or federal) and not privately, and that all were free or next to free to live in. Either way all technicalities aside they are monster shitholes that contribute to crime and dont add much benefit to a community.