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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Binarypotato
look up the Honda FCX its a Hydrogen/Fuel Cell vehicle already in the making, they've gotten it better over the past few years too....

Just google Honda FCX
yeah i read about the original not being as efficient, but the newest model looks alot better and has a much better cruising range
Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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I used an electrolizer to split the water into Hydrogen and Oxygen. a tube leading from the electrolizer went through a small barrel valve, that controlled the flow of gas. It was a matter of holding the output line from the barrel valve in front of the carb. When I blew it up, I had the carb removed from the intake all together. I was controlling the rpm with the flow of gas. I would use a two by four wedged against the crank pulley to "load" the engine. I would increase fuel flow while applying more tesion on the two by four. Thus balancing the rpm against the power production. Well not having three hands, I screwed up and the two by four slipped out of the framework that i was using to pry against. Well that poor little engine INSTANTLY turned like 2 million RPM!!! LOL it was funny as heck! And let's say that one of the poor little rods decided to "exit" the block. I kinda think he had enough.. Last I saw of him he was richocheting around my garage, heck I still havent found all of the parts. But it proved to me that it is possible to make big HP numbers. Also the tuning range is huge, upper and lower explosive limits are tremendous. Octane rating is through the roof. I can't see why we haven't used it as a fuel before. Now The downside of my little experiment: 1 blown up Briggs and Stratton 2 cyl 18 HP engine, 1 burned wrist, 1 blown up electrolizer (the flame from the explosion of the engine traveled back up the fuel line where it ended up in the sealed electrolizer, thus blowing the case apart), Ears that rang for 3 days from the explosion that occured. And yes it was very loud. Not from the engine letting go but from the electrolizer blowing up. Next time I will use a flame arrestor inline. And not to mention how lucky I was not to be on the reciving end of the rod or block when it let go! Now all of this has been done before! Anyone can research it on the internet. I only recreated what some one else did, just to satisfy my skepticism. Now I just need to figure out how to produce enough Hydrogen and Oxygen fast enough to produce 1500 plus HP! Come on guys, I know there are alot of smart folks here. Anyone?
Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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yep, i believe the new range is some 500km.

Although I have no idea what kind of money was put into it, or the exact processes of how it all works, I guess thats what you need to figure out, and I'm not much help there.
Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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I used an electrolizer to split the water into Hydrogen and Oxygen. a tube leading from the electrolizer went through a small barrel valve, that controlled the flow of gas. It was a matter of holding the output line from the barrel valve in front of the carb. When I blew it up, I had the carb removed from the intake all together. I was controlling the rpm with the flow of gas. I would use a two by four wedged against the crank pulley to "load" the engine. I would increase fuel flow while applying more tesion on the two by four. Thus balancing the rpm against the power production. Well not having three hands, I screwed up and the two by four slipped out of the framework that i was using to pry against. Well that poor little engine INSTANTLY turned like 2 million RPM!!! LOL it was funny as heck! And let's say that one of the poor little rods decided to "exit" the block. I kinda think he had enough.. Last I saw of him he was richocheting around my garage, heck I still havent found all of the parts. But it proved to me that it is possible to make big HP numbers. Also the tuning range is huge, upper and lower explosive limits are tremendous. Octane rating is through the roof. I can't see why we haven't used it as a fuel before. Now The downside of my little experiment: 1 blown up Briggs and Stratton 2 cyl 18 HP engine, 1 burned wrist, 1 blown up electrolizer (the flame from the explosion of the engine traveled back up the fuel line where it ended up in the sealed electrolizer, thus blowing the case apart), Ears that rang for 3 days from the explosion that occured. And yes it was very loud. Not from the engine letting go but from the electrolizer blowing up. Next time I will use a flame arrestor inline. And not to mention how lucky I was not to be on the reciving end of the rod or block when it let go! Now all of this has been done before! Anyone can research it on the internet. I only recreated what some one else did, just to satisfy my skepticism. Now I just need to figure out how to produce enough Hydrogen and Oxygen fast enough to produce 1500 plus HP! Come on guys, I know there are alot of smart folks here. Anyone?
lol WOW! where are you located? id like to check out some of your research
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Chahonda, you can make an elecrolizer in your garage in a couple of hours. use stainless mesh like the bug screens in your windows, you can layer them, you can roll them up etc, it all works. now one set of screens get the positive voltage. The other set gets the negative voltage. Make sure the screens don't touch each other. Use DC current. I set mine to 2 Volts. I ran it through a "dimmer" switch this allows the voltage to be pulsed. It increases the production of gas. A little playing with the voltage and dimmer setting will yield the best results for you. You will also need a catalyst, in the water you submerge the screens in. You can use sodium, lye, baking soda etc. It is only there to make the water carry the current. seal the top. Put a hose to it. feed the hose directly to a vacume port on the intake. I would assume above the butterfly but trial and error are the key here. USE A SPARK ARRESTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope this helps. Good luck. If I can help you, let me know.
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Chahonda, you can make an elecrolizer in your garage in a couple of hours. use stainless mesh like the bug screens in your windows, you can layer them, you can roll them up etc, it all works. now one set of screens get the positive voltage. The other set gets the negative voltage. Make sure the screens don't touch each other. Use DC current. I set mine to 2 Volts. I ran it through a "dimmer" switch this allows the voltage to be pulsed. It increases the production of gas. A little playing with the voltage and dimmer setting will yield the best results for you. You will also need a catalyst, in the water you submerge the screens in. You can use sodium, lye, baking soda etc. It is only there to make the water carry the current. seal the top. Put a hose to it. feed the hose directly to a vacume port on the intake. I would assume above the butterfly but trial and error are the key here. USE A SPARK ARRESTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope this helps. Good luck. If I can help you, let me know.
you mean like a flame arrestor on a boat? how is the amount of hydrogen controlled?
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For some reason this makes me think on the ET on the Shuttle.
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For some reason this makes me think on the ET on the Shuttle.
do what????
Old Dec 7, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CHAHONDA
do what????
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this research is really awesome, keep us updated!!
Old Dec 7, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Durring my experiments gas production was very crude. One reason for turning the barrel valve up was to bleed off excess gas that was being produced. Normally I would just turn off the switch to stop gas production till pressures dropped a little. But I had my trusty two by four to load the engine, I didn't see any harm in seeing what the engine would do with a little more Hydrogen!! Now on the internet there were references to people who used pressure switches to shut off power when gas production was high and demand low. For example if pressure in the electrolizer would exceed 7 psi than a switch would shut the power off, stopping gas production. When the pressure level would get below 4 psi it would turn the power back on, resuming gas production. Fairly simple. But I haven't gotten to that point yet.



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