engine builders....
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Re: engine builders....
Get the manufacturer manual first then get ready to pay a decent amount of coin for tools to make sure everything is measured perfect unless you find someone with the tools.
and no, plastic gauge is not the ideal way to measure bearing clearance. Lately iv been hearing people say this so im throwing it out there.
and no, plastic gauge is not the ideal way to measure bearing clearance. Lately iv been hearing people say this so im throwing it out there.
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Re: engine builders....
well if you are willing to come to hamptonroads area (chesapeake/vabeach), we can do it at my house. Is the motor already out? PM me with more info. Regardless of the task me and a buddy can help you out. Let me know
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Re: engine builders....
OK see below.
Sorry if I came off that way, but read further and maybe you will understand my earlier response.
Here is the response from the "Dickhead". I'm sure I'm much older than most of you guys here. I have built more engines in my time than most other "engine builders" have in thier time. I have collected over 60K in hand tools alone. A large majority of specialized measuring equipment etc... Now it took me many years of hard work attaining the level of experience that I have. Now I look at a post where a man (don't take this wrong) doesn't have the money to pay me to build his engine, but I am expected to "teach" him how to do it, and for less money than it would be for me to do the job? Now what happens if he screws something up while doing it, and the motor breaks? I will be the bad guy, and once again for less money. Anyone can slap an engine together, and if you think that is building one, you are sadly mistaken. There are things as subtle as the amount of chamfer you run on the edge of the rings you are filing. Oh, you don't file rings?. They are fine right out of the pakage? Right.... These are things you can't pay me to teach you. And once again, for less money than I would get just doing it myself the right way... Also, I don't want to travel to anyones house with my zillion pound tool box in tow. I also don't want you bumping around in my garage, possibly damaging a tool you don't even know how to read. And once again for less money... Now don't fly off the handle at me, nothing here was written with any negative intentions. I just found the OP's thoughts kinda funny. And if you are a true professional and are at my level you could see the humor in his post. If I can pass on a crumb of advise, do your project yourself. Go get a FACTORY manual, not a Haynes one... READ IT!!! Every stinking page that pertains to the engine. Get your machine shop to give you Ready to install parts and measurements. Send them the pistons along with the rods, block and crank. Have him return to you a final bored, honed, chamfered cleaned block, with pistons on the rods, rings that have been filed (check with ring manufacturer for CORRECT ring installation. There is an up and down side to rings! Also have him supply your rod and main bearings as well. Also don't forget the thrust bearing too. Balancing is a good investment but that is probably on the luxury side of your price range. But you have to understand If I charge a certain amount to build your engine (as the old joke goes), it will cost you more to watch and even more than that to help! Please I hope you find my earlier response from the point I was amused at his request. And I'm really not a dickhead, I give helpful advice to many here on VAdriven. This one just caught me by the funny bone...
Here is the response from the "Dickhead". I'm sure I'm much older than most of you guys here. I have built more engines in my time than most other "engine builders" have in thier time. I have collected over 60K in hand tools alone. A large majority of specialized measuring equipment etc... Now it took me many years of hard work attaining the level of experience that I have. Now I look at a post where a man (don't take this wrong) doesn't have the money to pay me to build his engine, but I am expected to "teach" him how to do it, and for less money than it would be for me to do the job? Now what happens if he screws something up while doing it, and the motor breaks? I will be the bad guy, and once again for less money. Anyone can slap an engine together, and if you think that is building one, you are sadly mistaken. There are things as subtle as the amount of chamfer you run on the edge of the rings you are filing. Oh, you don't file rings?. They are fine right out of the pakage? Right.... These are things you can't pay me to teach you. And once again, for less money than I would get just doing it myself the right way... Also, I don't want to travel to anyones house with my zillion pound tool box in tow. I also don't want you bumping around in my garage, possibly damaging a tool you don't even know how to read. And once again for less money... Now don't fly off the handle at me, nothing here was written with any negative intentions. I just found the OP's thoughts kinda funny. And if you are a true professional and are at my level you could see the humor in his post. If I can pass on a crumb of advise, do your project yourself. Go get a FACTORY manual, not a Haynes one... READ IT!!! Every stinking page that pertains to the engine. Get your machine shop to give you Ready to install parts and measurements. Send them the pistons along with the rods, block and crank. Have him return to you a final bored, honed, chamfered cleaned block, with pistons on the rods, rings that have been filed (check with ring manufacturer for CORRECT ring installation. There is an up and down side to rings! Also have him supply your rod and main bearings as well. Also don't forget the thrust bearing too. Balancing is a good investment but that is probably on the luxury side of your price range. But you have to understand If I charge a certain amount to build your engine (as the old joke goes), it will cost you more to watch and even more than that to help! Please I hope you find my earlier response from the point I was amused at his request. And I'm really not a dickhead, I give helpful advice to many here on VAdriven. This one just caught me by the funny bone...
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Re: engine builders....
OK see below.
Sorry if I came off that way, but read further and maybe you will understand my earlier response.
Here is the response from the "Dickhead". I'm sure I'm much older than most of you guys here. I have built more engines in my time than most other "engine builders" have in thier time. I have collected over 60K in hand tools alone. A large majority of specialized measuring equipment etc... Now it took me many years of hard work attaining the level of experience that I have. Now I look at a post where a man (don't take this wrong) doesn't have the money to pay me to build his engine, but I am expected to "teach" him how to do it, and for less money than it would be for me to do the job? Now what happens if he screws something up while doing it, and the motor breaks? I will be the bad guy, and once again for less money. Anyone can slap an engine together, and if you think that is building one, you are sadly mistaken. There are things as subtle as the amount of chamfer you run on the edge of the rings you are filing. Oh, you don't file rings?. They are fine right out of the pakage? Right.... These are things you can't pay me to teach you. And once again, for less money than I would get just doing it myself the right way... Also, I don't want to travel to anyones house with my zillion pound tool box in tow. I also don't want you bumping around in my garage, possibly damaging a tool you don't even know how to read. And once again for less money... Now don't fly off the handle at me, nothing here was written with any negative intentions. I just found the OP's thoughts kinda funny. And if you are a true professional and are at my level you could see the humor in his post. If I can pass on a crumb of advise, do your project yourself. Go get a FACTORY manual, not a Haynes one... READ IT!!! Every stinking page that pertains to the engine. Get your machine shop to give you Ready to install parts and measurements. Send them the pistons along with the rods, block and crank. Have him return to you a final bored, honed, chamfered cleaned block, with pistons on the rods, rings that have been filed (check with ring manufacturer for CORRECT ring installation. There is an up and down side to rings! Also have him supply your rod and main bearings as well. Also don't forget the thrust bearing too. Balancing is a good investment but that is probably on the luxury side of your price range. But you have to understand If I charge a certain amount to build your engine (as the old joke goes), it will cost you more to watch and even more than that to help! Please I hope you find my earlier response from the point I was amused at his request. And I'm really not a dickhead, I give helpful advice to many here on VAdriven. This one just caught me by the funny bone...
Sorry if I came off that way, but read further and maybe you will understand my earlier response.
Here is the response from the "Dickhead". I'm sure I'm much older than most of you guys here. I have built more engines in my time than most other "engine builders" have in thier time. I have collected over 60K in hand tools alone. A large majority of specialized measuring equipment etc... Now it took me many years of hard work attaining the level of experience that I have. Now I look at a post where a man (don't take this wrong) doesn't have the money to pay me to build his engine, but I am expected to "teach" him how to do it, and for less money than it would be for me to do the job? Now what happens if he screws something up while doing it, and the motor breaks? I will be the bad guy, and once again for less money. Anyone can slap an engine together, and if you think that is building one, you are sadly mistaken. There are things as subtle as the amount of chamfer you run on the edge of the rings you are filing. Oh, you don't file rings?. They are fine right out of the pakage? Right.... These are things you can't pay me to teach you. And once again, for less money than I would get just doing it myself the right way... Also, I don't want to travel to anyones house with my zillion pound tool box in tow. I also don't want you bumping around in my garage, possibly damaging a tool you don't even know how to read. And once again for less money... Now don't fly off the handle at me, nothing here was written with any negative intentions. I just found the OP's thoughts kinda funny. And if you are a true professional and are at my level you could see the humor in his post. If I can pass on a crumb of advise, do your project yourself. Go get a FACTORY manual, not a Haynes one... READ IT!!! Every stinking page that pertains to the engine. Get your machine shop to give you Ready to install parts and measurements. Send them the pistons along with the rods, block and crank. Have him return to you a final bored, honed, chamfered cleaned block, with pistons on the rods, rings that have been filed (check with ring manufacturer for CORRECT ring installation. There is an up and down side to rings! Also have him supply your rod and main bearings as well. Also don't forget the thrust bearing too. Balancing is a good investment but that is probably on the luxury side of your price range. But you have to understand If I charge a certain amount to build your engine (as the old joke goes), it will cost you more to watch and even more than that to help! Please I hope you find my earlier response from the point I was amused at his request. And I'm really not a dickhead, I give helpful advice to many here on VAdriven. This one just caught me by the funny bone...
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Here is the response from the "Dickhead". I'm sure I'm much older than most of you guys here. I have built more engines in my time than most other "engine builders" have in thier time. I have collected over 60K in hand tools alone. A large majority of specialized measuring equipment etc... Now it took me many years of hard work attaining the level of experience that I have. Now I look at a post where a man (don't take this wrong) doesn't have the money to pay me to build his engine, but I am expected to "teach" him how to do it, and for less money than it would be for me to do the job? Now what happens if he screws something up while doing it, and the motor breaks? I will be the bad guy, and once again for less money. Anyone can slap an engine together, and if you think that is building one, you are sadly mistaken. There are things as subtle as the amount of chamfer you run on the edge of the rings you are filing. Oh, you don't file rings?. They are fine right out of the pakage? Right.... These are things you can't pay me to teach you. And once again, for less money than I would get just doing it myself the right way... Also, I don't want to travel to anyones house with my zillion pound tool box in tow. I also don't want you bumping around in my garage, possibly damaging a tool you don't even know how to read. And once again for less money... Now don't fly off the handle at me, nothing here was written with any negative intentions. I just found the OP's thoughts kinda funny. And if you are a true professional and are at my level you could see the humor in his post. If I can pass on a crumb of advise, do your project yourself. Go get a FACTORY manual, not a Haynes one... READ IT!!! Every stinking page that pertains to the engine. Get your machine shop to give you Ready to install parts and measurements. Send them the pistons along with the rods, block and crank. Have him return to you a final bored, honed, chamfered cleaned block, with pistons on the rods, rings that have been filed (check with ring manufacturer for CORRECT ring installation. There is an up and down side to rings! Also have him supply your rod and main bearings as well. Also don't forget the thrust bearing too. Balancing is a good investment but that is probably on the luxury side of your price range. But you have to understand If I charge a certain amount to build your engine (as the old joke goes), it will cost you more to watch and even more than that to help! Please I hope you find my earlier response from the point I was amused at his request. And I'm really not a dickhead, I give helpful advice to many here on VAdriven. This one just caught me by the funny bone...
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Re: engine builders....
OK see below.
Sorry if I came off that way, but read further and maybe you will understand my earlier response.
Here is the response from the "Dickhead". I'm sure I'm much older than most of you guys here. I have built more engines in my time than most other "engine builders" have in thier time. I have collected over 60K in hand tools alone. A large majority of specialized measuring equipment etc... Now it took me many years of hard work attaining the level of experience that I have. Now I look at a post where a man (don't take this wrong) doesn't have the money to pay me to build his engine, but I am expected to "teach" him how to do it, and for less money than it would be for me to do the job? Now what happens if he screws something up while doing it, and the motor breaks? I will be the bad guy, and once again for less money. Anyone can slap an engine together, and if you think that is building one, you are sadly mistaken. There are things as subtle as the amount of chamfer you run on the edge of the rings you are filing. Oh, you don't file rings?. They are fine right out of the pakage? Right.... These are things you can't pay me to teach you. And once again, for less money than I would get just doing it myself the right way... Also, I don't want to travel to anyones house with my zillion pound tool box in tow. I also don't want you bumping around in my garage, possibly damaging a tool you don't even know how to read. And once again for less money... Now don't fly off the handle at me, nothing here was written with any negative intentions. I just found the OP's thoughts kinda funny. And if you are a true professional and are at my level you could see the humor in his post. If I can pass on a crumb of advise, do your project yourself. Go get a FACTORY manual, not a Haynes one... READ IT!!! Every stinking page that pertains to the engine. Get your machine shop to give you Ready to install parts and measurements. Send them the pistons along with the rods, block and crank. Have him return to you a final bored, honed, chamfered cleaned block, with pistons on the rods, rings that have been filed (check with ring manufacturer for CORRECT ring installation. There is an up and down side to rings! Also have him supply your rod and main bearings as well. Also don't forget the thrust bearing too. Balancing is a good investment but that is probably on the luxury side of your price range. But you have to understand If I charge a certain amount to build your engine (as the old joke goes), it will cost you more to watch and even more than that to help! Please I hope you find my earlier response from the point I was amused at his request. And I'm really not a dickhead, I give helpful advice to many here on VAdriven. This one just caught me by the funny bone...
Sorry if I came off that way, but read further and maybe you will understand my earlier response.
Here is the response from the "Dickhead". I'm sure I'm much older than most of you guys here. I have built more engines in my time than most other "engine builders" have in thier time. I have collected over 60K in hand tools alone. A large majority of specialized measuring equipment etc... Now it took me many years of hard work attaining the level of experience that I have. Now I look at a post where a man (don't take this wrong) doesn't have the money to pay me to build his engine, but I am expected to "teach" him how to do it, and for less money than it would be for me to do the job? Now what happens if he screws something up while doing it, and the motor breaks? I will be the bad guy, and once again for less money. Anyone can slap an engine together, and if you think that is building one, you are sadly mistaken. There are things as subtle as the amount of chamfer you run on the edge of the rings you are filing. Oh, you don't file rings?. They are fine right out of the pakage? Right.... These are things you can't pay me to teach you. And once again, for less money than I would get just doing it myself the right way... Also, I don't want to travel to anyones house with my zillion pound tool box in tow. I also don't want you bumping around in my garage, possibly damaging a tool you don't even know how to read. And once again for less money... Now don't fly off the handle at me, nothing here was written with any negative intentions. I just found the OP's thoughts kinda funny. And if you are a true professional and are at my level you could see the humor in his post. If I can pass on a crumb of advise, do your project yourself. Go get a FACTORY manual, not a Haynes one... READ IT!!! Every stinking page that pertains to the engine. Get your machine shop to give you Ready to install parts and measurements. Send them the pistons along with the rods, block and crank. Have him return to you a final bored, honed, chamfered cleaned block, with pistons on the rods, rings that have been filed (check with ring manufacturer for CORRECT ring installation. There is an up and down side to rings! Also have him supply your rod and main bearings as well. Also don't forget the thrust bearing too. Balancing is a good investment but that is probably on the luxury side of your price range. But you have to understand If I charge a certain amount to build your engine (as the old joke goes), it will cost you more to watch and even more than that to help! Please I hope you find my earlier response from the point I was amused at his request. And I'm really not a dickhead, I give helpful advice to many here on VAdriven. This one just caught me by the funny bone...
