let make a car specific thread(dsmers)
the tune had nothing to do with the the car going down. im not taking the car to DTM. thats fine if you and jaun want to go there. but i will not take it there. after they trashed the x case in jauns car. i would rather not take my car to a place so careless. not to mention a few months back were baching everyone. sorry guys but its just not going to happen so stop trying.
lets see how you car turns out. a factory ecu flash and 35r land are VERY different. i wish you the best but only time will tell.

lets see how you car turns out. a factory ecu flash and 35r land are VERY different. i wish you the best but only time will tell.
How can a tune trash a Tcase? That's retarted!!??!! Juans tcase was the fault of a local dealership in his area.
Tuning on a ecu flash with a 35r is hard for other shops... easy for DTM though. Nick holds multiple HP records for flashes on stroked, destroked 2.3, 2.2, 2.1, 2.4 engines, 50trim, 35, 37, 40, 42R turbo's. Almost to the point where you don't need a standalone unless you're doing some SERIOUS racing and not some weekend fun.
Their racing record shows just how careless they really are with multiple 1st places and currently the east coast Time Attack champs 3 years strong... Oh yeah and the NASA TTR Champs second to no one.
But to he his own.
Tuning on a ecu flash with a 35r is hard for other shops... easy for DTM though. Nick holds multiple HP records for flashes on stroked, destroked 2.3, 2.2, 2.1, 2.4 engines, 50trim, 35, 37, 40, 42R turbo's. Almost to the point where you don't need a standalone unless you're doing some SERIOUS racing and not some weekend fun.
Their racing record shows just how careless they really are with multiple 1st places and currently the east coast Time Attack champs 3 years strong... Oh yeah and the NASA TTR Champs second to no one.
But to he his own.

Sure, you can tune any setup you want on the stock ecu, but you will reach a point where the scaling is going to be so stupidly out of the realm of reality that the car is nothing more than a drag car. Its stupid, like a band-aid over a 50cal hole in your torso or something.
I've never seen any hp records by his flashes....I've been on the evo forums for over 3 years, I remember reading about the whole up north deal(which I'm gonna leave out cuz I don't want to hear the whining), but I've never seen anywhere on there where he set records with a flash. There's no way, he tunes too conservative(not a bad thing, btw..) to set records, unless hes like half the other shops out there and cranks boost for the dyno.
Another thing, if it was the fault of a local dealership why did DTM give him "the hookup" with a cracked housing t-case that leaks until they rebuilt his? Not to mention I think one of the guys there pretty much told him to forget it that he was on his own...and then 180'd to say they were gonna take care of it?
Last edited by BSeriesTurbo; Jan 15, 2008 at 08:16 PM.
yo... i think you have your stories mixed up... I've spoken to juan in person about that situation. You need to double check your info.
Don't get bent out of shape man... injector scaling is the hardest part. You show me someone that can scale a 37r or larger in this area other than nick.
as far as his ordeals up north. It was settled in court. Nick worked hard to clear his name in the past 3 years. You don't know and only know through word of mouth. We all know how that spins.
all I'm sayin is that... look at your options...
Yeah... I'm sure that DTM gave him a crack t-case housing on a customer that has brought him so much business. Yeah... cuz that's good business.
Well no hard feelings though...
But I hear tunes brake T-cases these days though... LMAO
Don't get bent out of shape man... injector scaling is the hardest part. You show me someone that can scale a 37r or larger in this area other than nick.
as far as his ordeals up north. It was settled in court. Nick worked hard to clear his name in the past 3 years. You don't know and only know through word of mouth. We all know how that spins.
all I'm sayin is that... look at your options...
Yeah... I'm sure that DTM gave him a crack t-case housing on a customer that has brought him so much business. Yeah... cuz that's good business.
Well no hard feelings though...
But I hear tunes brake T-cases these days though... LMAO
yo... i think you have your stories mixed up... I've spoken to juan in person about that situation. You need to double check your info.
Don't get bent out of shape man... injector scaling is the hardest part. You show me someone that can scale a 37r or larger in this area other than nick.
as far as his ordeals up north. It was settled in court. Nick worked hard to clear his name in the past 3 years. You don't know and only know through word of mouth. We all know how that spins.
all I'm sayin is that... look at your options...
Yeah... I'm sure that DTM gave him a crack t-case housing on a customer that has brought him so much business. Yeah... cuz that's good business.
Well no hard feelings though...
But I hear tunes brake T-cases these days though... LMAO
Don't get bent out of shape man... injector scaling is the hardest part. You show me someone that can scale a 37r or larger in this area other than nick.
as far as his ordeals up north. It was settled in court. Nick worked hard to clear his name in the past 3 years. You don't know and only know through word of mouth. We all know how that spins.
all I'm sayin is that... look at your options...
Yeah... I'm sure that DTM gave him a crack t-case housing on a customer that has brought him so much business. Yeah... cuz that's good business.
Well no hard feelings though...
But I hear tunes brake T-cases these days though... LMAO
I've talked to Juan myself as well. And yes, the housing was cracked, I put it in. So yeah, your right, that is good business.
I agree, injector scaling can be difficult, but it has nothing to do with the turbo size....there are many many people in this greater area that can do the work just fine, don't hype something up to make it sound better. All I was saying is trying to tune a high HP car on the stock ecu and maf is rediculous. If you have the money to go that far with the car, and are wanting to use it to its potential, you should step up to the plate and at least get something. Fcon, ems, Siebels new system if he'd ever release it ;-)
I'm not worked up, and I'm not taking anything out on you, so no worries. I just don't want all the nutriders trying to pressure people into taking there cars there, and thinking that Nick is the baddest shit alive. Regardless of the dealings with up north, the cars that were fucked up from that shop, and that shops tuning..(wait who tuned there again?...) still go on to tell their tale.
Anyways, I'm done with this. Rock on
Man there are a alot of DSM guys in Roanoke, I think you Roanoke guys and us Fredericksburg guys should meet up sometime. Some of these cars sound pretty interesting
read my post again. i never said the tune killed the t case. it was killed from them leaving the drain plug out(jauns own words) i talk to jaun almost daily. i i remember him telling me that they left it out and were going to "hook him up" you are who again???
Wait Brian....you didn't come to VIR, I forgot you only like to go straight
I've talked to Juan myself as well. And yes, the housing was cracked, I put it in. So yeah, your right, that is good business.
I agree, injector scaling can be difficult, but it has nothing to do with the turbo size....there are many many people in this greater area that can do the work just fine, don't hype something up to make it sound better. All I was saying is trying to tune a high HP car on the stock ecu and maf is rediculous. If you have the money to go that far with the car, and are wanting to use it to its potential, you should step up to the plate and at least get something. Fcon, ems, Siebels new system if he'd ever release it ;-)
I'm not worked up, and I'm not taking anything out on you, so no worries. I just don't want all the nutriders trying to pressure people into taking there cars there, and thinking that Nick is the baddest shit alive. Regardless of the dealings with up north, the cars that were fucked up from that shop, and that shops tuning..(wait who tuned there again?...) still go on to tell their tale.
Anyways, I'm done with this. Rock on
I agree, injector scaling can be difficult, but it has nothing to do with the turbo size....there are many many people in this greater area that can do the work just fine, don't hype something up to make it sound better. All I was saying is trying to tune a high HP car on the stock ecu and maf is rediculous. If you have the money to go that far with the car, and are wanting to use it to its potential, you should step up to the plate and at least get something. Fcon, ems, Siebels new system if he'd ever release it ;-)
I'm not worked up, and I'm not taking anything out on you, so no worries. I just don't want all the nutriders trying to pressure people into taking there cars there, and thinking that Nick is the baddest shit alive. Regardless of the dealings with up north, the cars that were fucked up from that shop, and that shops tuning..(wait who tuned there again?...) still go on to tell their tale.
Anyways, I'm done with this. Rock on

Wait a fucking minute. So brian goes to ams, has very shitty and unprofessional service, not to mention a bill that would make me cry and yet when I mention DTM I'm a "nutrider".
Who the fuck is pressuring anybody to do anything? The help I received was nothing less than what I would have expected, I don't know what Juan says about DTM or if he "pressures" anybody to go there, all I am saying is I like Nick. He is a straight forward guy and in my opinion will conduct business in a far more appropriate fashion than ams (taking into account the story from brian of course). Take that for a grain of sand for all I care, but dont judge. (brian) If you are skeptical check it out first then commit but once again I urge you not to judge. Contrary to popular belief no one is holding a gun to your head..
the tune had nothing to do with the the car going down. im not taking the car to DTM. thats fine if you and jaun want to go there. but i will not take it there. after they trashed the x case in jauns car. i would rather not take my car to a place so careless. not to mention a few months back were baching everyone. sorry guys but its just not going to happen so stop trying.
lets see how you car turns out. a factory ecu flash and 35r land are VERY different. i wish you the best but only time will tell.

lets see how you car turns out. a factory ecu flash and 35r land are VERY different. i wish you the best but only time will tell.
What the fuck ever, zai's car just caught on fire and burnt to the ground while I got two tickets taking him to breakfast shortly after. sigh...
Last edited by orrickr; Jan 16, 2008 at 10:05 AM.







