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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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So after deciding to put a h22 head on the f22, I pulled the head off the car today and bare with me I am no where near as knowledgeable as some of the members on here. Thats why I came here for an answer. Can you tell me if my sleeves are ok and what would cause the burn marks? I took pics of the worst 2.

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Btw- the block has 9k miles on it since the build. And I can move the pistons about an 1/8 of an inch around the cylinder. I did a compression check before tearing down the motor. All was ok, ranging from 207-210 across.

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Old Apr 20, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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if those are metal shards on your piston...


well, best way to say it, your fucked.
Old Apr 20, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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Detonation will normally damage the pistons not the cylinders, that looks like the normal wear caused by the skirt on the piston, the rocking front to back on the rod allows the skirt to contact the sleeve or cylinder. I would have them honed to restore the x pattern.
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NO there were zero metal shards. I wiped out the cylinder with a terry cloth to get the water and oil out. IT looks like metal, but its not.

Just went back out there to look again, no metal. Just shitty looking sleeves.
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Detonation will normally damage the pistons not the cylinders, that looks like the normal wear caused by the skirt on the piston, the rocking front to back on the rod allows the skirt to contact the sleeve or cylinder. I would have them honed to restore the x pattern.
Thanks, but why does the skirt ride on the cylinder wall? Anyway to eliminate that?
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looks to me that its running rich. looks fine
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Detonation will normally damage the pistons not the cylinders, that looks like the normal wear caused by the skirt on the piston, the rocking front to back on the rod allows the skirt to contact the sleeve or cylinder. I would have them honed to restore the x pattern.

Can I move it 1/8 of an inch back and forth and be ok ?
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a 1/8 of an inch is a lot of play.
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Thanks, but why does the skirt ride on the cylinder wall? Anyway to eliminate that?
Piston pins too tight maybe, are those full floating pistons? Getting the piston skirts coated with dry lubricant is the only way I know to remedy that. It's not a problem or a faulty engine you have there, they all do that but some more than others.
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does it smoke or feel like it loses power when it warm?



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