All motor build
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Re: All motor build
So I wouldn't start that arguement here.
NA Hondas are good for turns. Straight line they suck.
Also, that shiny side on the intake side sucking theory is a theory. Too many variables.
Why the fuck did you use piece of shit DSM 440s?
And just to prove things.
Gsr longblock.
ls crank.
skunk pro1s(not degreed in and not touched)
skunk 70mm throttlebody
skunk pro series intake manifold.
12:1 gsr pistons (81.5)
hytech replica (JUNK!) header
2.5inch vibrant.
SHAD TUNED ( cough cough) ON A REAL DYNO not some bullshit one that puts down different numbers back to back
208/14x
STOCK PORT HEAD.
For having a ported head and a bigger collector something was wrong with your motor IMO.
Last edited by Jarrod; Jan 27, 2009 at 05:41 PM.
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Re: All motor build
LOL! Whats even better is.
A) That motor is NOT making 190whp or anywhere NEAR 155tq.
AT ALL.
Not with that header or cams.
And it is not making anywhere near 155tq with that small of displacement.
Post pictures of the ported head.
OP. Unless you have the cams and valvetrain laying around to do it. Go with a vtec head. I had a 81.5mm NA LS motor that made 190whp and 141tq revving to 8400 and it made power to 8200. Power fell off but wasn't drastic enough.
All I did was port matched the head gasket wise. RMF header. 12:1 static compression. Crower 404s. Skunk manifold and 65mm throttle body.
I toy'd the idea of a 85mm x 89 mm non-vtec build using the p8r head and crower 405s but decided a turbo setup would be better to go fast.
Also. When I had my NA LS motor. It did not like to idle with the 404s, at 800rpms i'd have to blip it after letting it sit for a little bit or else it would fatten up and fall on it's face.
A) That motor is NOT making 190whp or anywhere NEAR 155tq.
AT ALL.
Not with that header or cams.
And it is not making anywhere near 155tq with that small of displacement.
Post pictures of the ported head.
OP. Unless you have the cams and valvetrain laying around to do it. Go with a vtec head. I had a 81.5mm NA LS motor that made 190whp and 141tq revving to 8400 and it made power to 8200. Power fell off but wasn't drastic enough.
All I did was port matched the head gasket wise. RMF header. 12:1 static compression. Crower 404s. Skunk manifold and 65mm throttle body.
I toy'd the idea of a 85mm x 89 mm non-vtec build using the p8r head and crower 405s but decided a turbo setup would be better to go fast.
Also. When I had my NA LS motor. It did not like to idle with the 404s, at 800rpms i'd have to blip it after letting it sit for a little bit or else it would fatten up and fall on it's face.
You said you had a 81.5mm NA LS motor that made 190whp and 141tq
Why wouldnt my 82mm LS make that or more..? The 404's arent going to be much of a gain over 403's.
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Re: All motor build
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Re: All motor build
Are your cams degreed in? Do you have a REAL HEADER? No. So your motor WILL NOT make those numbers.
Even with race gas and 60 degrees of timing in it you will not touch 190 nor 150 tq.
Sorry. When you get tuned you can get raped by a stock srt4.
Put some nitrous on it. that really wakes them up.
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Re: All motor build
Been there done that.
So I wouldn't start that arguement here.
NA Hondas are good for turns. Straight line they suck.
Also, that shiny side on the intake side sucking theory is a theory. Too many variables.
Why the fuck did you use piece of shit DSM 440s?
And just to prove things.
Gsr longblock.
ls crank.
skunk pro1s(not degreed in and not touched)
skunk 70mm throttlebody
skunk pro series intake manifold.
12:1 gsr pistons (81.5)
hytech replica (JUNK!) header
2.5inch vibrant.
SHAD TUNED ( cough cough) ON A REAL DYNO not some bullshit one that puts down different numbers back to back
208/14x
STOCK PORT HEAD.
For having a ported head and a bigger collector something was wrong with your motor IMO.
So I wouldn't start that arguement here.
NA Hondas are good for turns. Straight line they suck.
Also, that shiny side on the intake side sucking theory is a theory. Too many variables.
Why the fuck did you use piece of shit DSM 440s?
And just to prove things.
Gsr longblock.
ls crank.
skunk pro1s(not degreed in and not touched)
skunk 70mm throttlebody
skunk pro series intake manifold.
12:1 gsr pistons (81.5)
hytech replica (JUNK!) header
2.5inch vibrant.
SHAD TUNED ( cough cough) ON A REAL DYNO not some bullshit one that puts down different numbers back to back
208/14x
STOCK PORT HEAD.
For having a ported head and a bigger collector something was wrong with your motor IMO.
Ya its called Dyno Inc's dyno.
I was def. making 220 or higher. When I ran Juni's hatch we stayed neck and neck untill about 5th gear with my GSR trans. He was making 220whp in a hatch. I was in a 4 door eg.
I also was starving for a larger throttle body and decent intake/filter
Diamond Star Motors,everyone calls them DSM injectors,but are they? No.
Please start to spell check before you hit post douche.
Last edited by madsteez; Jan 27, 2009 at 05:50 PM.
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Re: All motor build
he could match the power to weight if his honda weighed something like 900lbs, actually, gixxer 1000's make how much whp? cause you need to match that power to weight to even come close. homo.
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Re: All motor build
Ya its called Dyno Inc's dyno.
I was def. making 220 or higher. When I ran Juni's hatch we stayed neck and neck untill about 5th gear with my GSR trans. He was making 220whp in a hatch. I was in a 4 door eg.
I also was starving for a larger throttle body and decent intake/filter
I was def. making 220 or higher. When I ran Juni's hatch we stayed neck and neck untill about 5th gear with my GSR trans. He was making 220whp in a hatch. I was in a 4 door eg.
I also was starving for a larger throttle body and decent intake/filter
I heard he made 235 in a hatch.
I also heard that a stock gsr eg stay'd 'side by side' with him.
I really wish my buddies Shane was still together so he could show ya'll what a geniune 235whp rolls like.
Seriously. I've seen some of the cars that 'juni's car' has ran and ridden in them. Night and Day difference.
Not knockin his car but so many rant and rave about it.
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Re: All motor build
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Re: All motor build
In my favor? The power is in my favor, enough so where I don't need to worry about the weight difference. And who the fuck would spell check the word "douche"?