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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Mid Atlantic Performance
Haha, Mustang's are the best hooking cars in stock form PERIOD, I have been plenty of 1.5-1.4 60ft times on completely stock suspension cars. .
Hahahahah Really? Hmm, any evidence besides your own stories?
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Originally Posted by JROW
Hahahahah Really? Hmm, any evidence besides your own stories?
Its troooffff son! Haha
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Flite
That car is stock IRS?
Maybe if it was a real cobra, but its not lol
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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Default Re: Finally 2011 Mustang will bring back 5.0

Originally Posted by Flite
That car is stock IRS?
No, that is a strait axle car.

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Hahahahah Really? Hmm, any evidence besides your own stories?
Yes really, I would love to see you disprove it. As far as that car the class that it competes in the rules only allow just that, factory style suspension and bolt on parts. Here are the rules for the class he runs.

3.4 SUSPENSION, FRONT
FRONT SUSPENSION:
3.4a) K-MEMBERS: Aftermarket K-Members permitted, but must attach to the chassis using only the original eight (8) factory OEM type mounting bolts in the factory mounting location. No part of the K-member may be permanently attached to the chassis. K-member may be modified in oil pan area to allow oil pan enlargement or removal.
3.4b) STRUT TOWER: Factory strut tower required. No modifications may be made to the strut towers other than the roll bar or roll cage may be welded to the strut towers for safety purposes.
3.4c) CONTROL ARMS: Aftermarket tubular control arms permitted that are attached in stock locations.
3.4d) SHOCKS/STRUTS: Aftermarket struts and shocks permitted provided stock attachment locations are used.
3.4e) SPRINGS: Aftermarket springs permitted.
3.4f) COIL OVERS: Coil over shocks and struts permitted. OEM mounting location required.
3.4g) CAMBER PLATES: Bolt on type camber plates permitted. Bolt on plate may be tack welded to strut tower to prevent movement (2.00-inch max length), otherwise welding prohibited. Camber plate may only be attached to top flat portion of strut tower. Attachment to any other structure prohibited.
3.4h) SPINDLES: Only stock OEM or NMRA accepted, bolt-on, commercially available aftermarket spindles permitted. NMRA accepted spindles are Anthony Jones Engineering, RaceCraft, Strange, & Santhuff.
3.4 SUSPENSION, REAR
REAR SUSPENSION: Stock type suspension, including stock 4-link, and traction bars permitted. Rear coil-over shocks prohibited.
STOCK TYPE SUSPENSION: Stock type suspension may utilize aftermarket, direct replacement type suspension components including aftermarket replacement shocks, springs (in factory location), and/or control arms. All stock type 4-link suspensions must maintain stock lateral angles and attachment points, but may be moved up or down on rear axle. Aftermarket torque arms permitted.
3.4a) 3-LINK AND 4-LINK: Stock or stock-type direct-replacement 3-link and/or 4 links required. All stock type 3 or 4 link suspensions must maintain stock lateral angles and attachment points, but may be moved up or down on rear axle. Retrofitting and/or cross-breeding of 3-link and 4-link components prohibited.
3.4b) LADDER BARS: Prohibited.
3.4c) REPLACEMENT CONTROL ARMS: Replacement aftermarket OEM style upper and lower control arms permitted. Control arms may use any type bushing, bearing, or rod end. Control arms may be adjustable to any length.
3.4d) PANHARD BARS: Panhard bars permitted to control lateral movement of rearend housing. Panhard bars must be located aft of rearend housing, and control only lateral rearend movement. Panhard bars may be welded.
3.4e) SWAY BARS: Aftermarket or factory sway bars permitted. Aftermarket sway bars may be welded to both chassis and rearend housing.
3.4f) TORQUE ARMS: Permitted.
3.4g) REAR SHOCKS & SPRINGS: OEM or aftermarket style shocks & springs required in stock location. Coil-over springs prohibited. Shocks must be stand alone and may not be adjustable during run via any means.
3.4h) TRACTION BARS: Bolt on traction bars with permanent (welded or bolted) rear end mount and rubber snubber (or rubber bushing with permanent mount) on chassis side permitted.
3.4i) TORQUE BOXES: The Wild Rides “S” Box has been deemed an acceptable OEM Fox-body torque box replacement when installed in the OEM location as per Wild Rides official instructions. The only acceptable control arm mounting location for the upper control arms is the middle hole on the “S” box, which is the same as the stock OEM mounting location.
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Default Re: Finally 2011 Mustang will bring back 5.0

Originally Posted by Mid Atlantic Performance
No, that is a strait axle car.
Well then, that just supports my original argument. Ford put IRS in the cars which couldn't hold up in a straight line, but couldn't perform when the road turns either.

It was a bad idea and they should have just stuck with a live axle.

If you read back, you'd see my point was that IRS was stupid. Arguing that point by using a picture of a stick axle pulling the wheels is kind of silly.
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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Default Re: Finally 2011 Mustang will bring back 5.0

Originally Posted by Flite
Well then, that just supports my original argument. Ford put IRS in the cars which couldn't hold up in a straight line, but couldn't perform when the road turns either.

It was a bad idea and they should have just stuck with a live axle.

If you read back, you'd see my point was that IRS was stupid. Arguing that point by using a picture of a stick axle pulling the wheels is kind of silly.
I wasent arguing with you, I do agree that the IRS in stock form is not the best choice. I was arguing with whoever it was that said stock mustangs wont launch
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 07:16 AM
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Default Re: Finally 2011 Mustang will bring back 5.0

Originally Posted by Mid Atlantic Performance
No, that is a strait axle car.



Yes really, I would love to see you disprove it.
Spend some time on the mr2oc and you'll get all the disproof you need. There are a fair amount of guys pulling 1.3-1.5s on stock suspension frequently. Also a lot of guys pull times just as good as your mustangs on stock c5 suspension with dr's.

Unless you're telling me a mustang can pull these times with factory/non dr street tires?
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Originally Posted by JROW
Spend some time on the mr2oc and you'll get all the disproof you need.
Not really
Old Dec 21, 2009 | 07:49 AM
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Default Re: Finally 2011 Mustang will bring back 5.0

Originally Posted by marlinspike
Wait, do you mean this Aug/Sept or 2010? 2010 seems more likely give that the media is calling it a 2011.
this august would be 2010... when the 2011's are due to release.



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