Real vs. Fake
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Re: Real vs. Fake
I think the real vs. fake is most important when it comes to true performance parts like internal engine components, turbos, etc. I personally don't give a shit if someone has knock off wheels. Chances are that they aren't going to fail and cause catostrophic damage to the engine and keep it from running. Granted, a shitty wheel could destroy an entire car, but I've not really seen a lot of those complaints.
Move to performance parts.
Shitty, knockoff performance parts are much more of a big deal. The likelihood of a knock off chinese made turbo failing, or a wastegate, etc. is much higher and will destroy an engine.
Cliffs notes: real vs. fake only matters in the performance world.
Move to performance parts.
Shitty, knockoff performance parts are much more of a big deal. The likelihood of a knock off chinese made turbo failing, or a wastegate, etc. is much higher and will destroy an engine.
Cliffs notes: real vs. fake only matters in the performance world.
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Re: Real vs. Fake
I think the real vs. fake is most important when it comes to true performance parts like internal engine components, turbos, etc. I personally don't give a shit if someone has knock off wheels. Chances are that they aren't going to fail and cause catostrophic damage to the engine and keep it from running. Granted, a shitty wheel could destroy an entire car, but I've not really seen a lot of those complaints.
Move to performance parts.
Shitty, knockoff performance parts are much more of a big deal. The likelihood of a knock off chinese made turbo failing, or a wastegate, etc. is much higher and will destroy an engine.
Cliffs notes: real vs. fake only matters in the performance world.
Move to performance parts.
Shitty, knockoff performance parts are much more of a big deal. The likelihood of a knock off chinese made turbo failing, or a wastegate, etc. is much higher and will destroy an engine.
Cliffs notes: real vs. fake only matters in the performance world.
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Are these really good analogies for your argument?
1. IF you buy a $2 burger and it's just as good as a $20 one, then are you the more intelligent person for not overpaying for meat and bread? If you spend that much money on a burger then you really don't care about money and want everyone to know this.
2. The Shelby Cobra argument:
Cost: 1966 Shelby Cobra 427 "Super Snake" - Sold at $5,500,000 vs. a factory 5 cobra kit car might cost around $40k built.
You could build a 'replica' of the Super Snake for a heck of a lot less. You can enjoy the hell out of the replica, actually driving the car and even racing that car in specific race categories. You can put in an LSX and actually have a fast light car with modern reliability. But would you ever even think about driving the actual Super Snake anywhere in this area with the condition of the roads? Would you park it at the mall and go in to watch a movie? For 1/100th of the price you have a car you can actually enjoy more than have people come over to the house to drool over.
My point being: Just because it isn't original, doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed. And if people are thinking your wheels are fake, is it really your problem? The people that know the real difference will know, and all others don't care enough to know...so what's the problem with that?
The whole real vs fake will never end, you still have people that want 'prestige' from buying parts being put on a civic. Despite what fanboys will tell you, rep's aren't likely to shatter on you driving down the road any more than a stock wheel would. Would I slap stickers on a set of rotas and tell everyone they were mugen? no, but that is me. Would I put a set of rota's on a daily driver in this area? Shit yeah. You have people hating on wheel's regardless if there are any fake markings on them. Those people are the fanboys I speak of. They will drool over someone's Backyard Special bumper that is an arguable copy of an Airwalker one. You still have the group that will always stick it's nose in the air because what they have or seen is better.
Just my opinion. I guess I don't "get" people getting angry over someone else's wheels, after all it's not your car. To me it's no different than painting another civic pea green and slapping a huge body kit, it just makes the nice ones stand out more.
1. IF you buy a $2 burger and it's just as good as a $20 one, then are you the more intelligent person for not overpaying for meat and bread? If you spend that much money on a burger then you really don't care about money and want everyone to know this.
2. The Shelby Cobra argument:
Cost: 1966 Shelby Cobra 427 "Super Snake" - Sold at $5,500,000 vs. a factory 5 cobra kit car might cost around $40k built.
You could build a 'replica' of the Super Snake for a heck of a lot less. You can enjoy the hell out of the replica, actually driving the car and even racing that car in specific race categories. You can put in an LSX and actually have a fast light car with modern reliability. But would you ever even think about driving the actual Super Snake anywhere in this area with the condition of the roads? Would you park it at the mall and go in to watch a movie? For 1/100th of the price you have a car you can actually enjoy more than have people come over to the house to drool over.
My point being: Just because it isn't original, doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed. And if people are thinking your wheels are fake, is it really your problem? The people that know the real difference will know, and all others don't care enough to know...so what's the problem with that?
The whole real vs fake will never end, you still have people that want 'prestige' from buying parts being put on a civic. Despite what fanboys will tell you, rep's aren't likely to shatter on you driving down the road any more than a stock wheel would. Would I slap stickers on a set of rotas and tell everyone they were mugen? no, but that is me. Would I put a set of rota's on a daily driver in this area? Shit yeah. You have people hating on wheel's regardless if there are any fake markings on them. Those people are the fanboys I speak of. They will drool over someone's Backyard Special bumper that is an arguable copy of an Airwalker one. You still have the group that will always stick it's nose in the air because what they have or seen is better.
Just my opinion. I guess I don't "get" people getting angry over someone else's wheels, after all it's not your car. To me it's no different than painting another civic pea green and slapping a huge body kit, it just makes the nice ones stand out more.
At no point did I say that the $20 burger was any better... what I said was...would you take the $2 burger and try and make everybody believe you paid $20 for it. So.. pretty much everything that you stated after quoting me... was absolutely useless.
It has to do with quality. Usually.. when you spend more money on something.. it tends to be because it is made with better material.
Kinda like saying... Why buy a 14k necklace when you can get a 24k plated necklace.
Well...mainly because the plated gold will eventually wear off and look like shyt. The solid gold will always look good.
Your logic is flawed and you might want to look into it.
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"At no point did I say that the $20 burger was any better" -That is why it's a shitty analogy. Because real wheels ARE better than reps, not just cost more.
I understand that you believe it takes away from the fact your wheels are genuine.
What I am saying is how does it affect you at all? You say that buying a wheel brings "a certain level of prestige" and I am saying it doesn't affect you at all...or shouldn't. IF anyone even cares enough to actually inspect the wheel, will know it's genuine. So who the hell cares what other people do? Other people faking the funk are silly, but getting all bent out of shape because of it is equally silly.
Argue the real reasons someone should buy real, not some elitist looking down his nose because he thinks it devalues his property.
I understand that you believe it takes away from the fact your wheels are genuine.
What I am saying is how does it affect you at all? You say that buying a wheel brings "a certain level of prestige" and I am saying it doesn't affect you at all...or shouldn't. IF anyone even cares enough to actually inspect the wheel, will know it's genuine. So who the hell cares what other people do? Other people faking the funk are silly, but getting all bent out of shape because of it is equally silly.
Argue the real reasons someone should buy real, not some elitist looking down his nose because he thinks it devalues his property.
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"At no point did I say that the $20 burger was any better" -That is why it's a shitty analogy. Because real wheels ARE better than reps, not just cost more.
I understand that you believe it takes away from the fact your wheels are genuine.
What I am saying is how does it affect you at all? You say that buying a wheel brings "a certain level of prestige" and I am saying it doesn't affect you at all...or shouldn't. IF anyone even cares enough to actually inspect the wheel, will know it's genuine. So who the hell cares what other people do? Other people faking the funk are silly, but getting all bent out of shape because of it is equally silly.
Argue the real reasons someone should buy real, not some elitist looking down his nose because he thinks it devalues his property.
I understand that you believe it takes away from the fact your wheels are genuine.
What I am saying is how does it affect you at all? You say that buying a wheel brings "a certain level of prestige" and I am saying it doesn't affect you at all...or shouldn't. IF anyone even cares enough to actually inspect the wheel, will know it's genuine. So who the hell cares what other people do? Other people faking the funk are silly, but getting all bent out of shape because of it is equally silly.
Argue the real reasons someone should buy real, not some elitist looking down his nose because he thinks it devalues his property.
Second... What would be the purpose of hooking up a car then? Why bother? The entire point of making a car look better is to express yourself and your stylings. So.. when you do it.. it is ment for other to notice.
EVERYBODY wants their car to be noticed. Weather it is a fast car.. or a slow car. People enjoy the comments and having others compliment their cars. Its the entire point that we do this.
So... why should you spend the money to have the quality parts and instead of getting the compliment.. you get the "are those real Works rims? or knock offs?" It should all just be enjoyed.... when you go to a car show or meet.. you shouldn't be met with this question constantly. It takes away from the enjoyment of the car.
and dont tell me that "it doesn't matter what others think" bullshit. It does matter... opinions are the world. Right and wrong is based on an opinion. it is the popluar opinion of what people believe is right and what people believe is wrong. Does everybody agree with the masses? No, they dont.. but that doesn't change anything... right and wrong is still right and wrong.
Everybody wants a car that makes them feel good. They want to show people what they think looks good. Which is why when people follow the masses and everybody has the same honda civic hatch and the same wheels and shit. Its just retarded... Cause you are expressing that you are a follower and just go with the trend of the masses.
I am sure that what I am trying to say is not coming out exactly right... but maybe it has come across.. maybe it hasn't... i tried... LOL...
Thats the best that I can do.
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Re: Real vs. Fake
Everybody wants a car that makes them feel good. They want to show people what they think looks good. Which is why when people follow the masses and everybody has the same honda civic hatch and the same wheels and shit. Its just retarded... Cause you are expressing that you are a follower and just go with the trend of the masses.
I am sure that what I am trying to say is not coming out exactly right... but maybe it has come across.. maybe it hasn't... i tried... LOL...
Thats the best that I can do.
I am sure that what I am trying to say is not coming out exactly right... but maybe it has come across.. maybe it hasn't... i tried... LOL...
Thats the best that I can do.
To me, it's a compromise. Wrestling with form and function. You can choose to put your money into performance or appearance, but most peoples pockets aren't deep enough to do both on a high level. One compromise is we drive civics, mustangs, 240s, etc. I chose my car for gas mileage, aftermarket support and cost associated, and functionality...but it's not a show car, just a daily driver. Not everyone 'follows the masses' or builds their cars to be appreciated by all. Some compromise and buy reps for the street so VA's shitty roads don't claim another rare wheel.
Look at it this way, it's supply and demand. If reps didn't exist, then you would be paying a hell of a lot more for rare wheels.
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Re: Real vs. Fake
"real" wheels can break just as easily as "fake" wheels.
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Maybe if they go into a turn and hit the curb. good try though
its a status thing. People pay the money to be different.
you pay the 600 for rotas, then on the way back from getting tires mounted you see 10 cars with the same wheels on em. Fuck that
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I can't believe this thread is still going. And your right.. you dont understand..
It has been said a couple of times. In the thread. but I will use your analogy to help you understand.
Let say that you buy the $2 burger. Your gonna carry it over to the fancy restaurant and put it on a plate, to try and pass it off as if you paid $20 for it? That is the gay part.
You wanna rock cheap rims.. rock cheap rims.. nobody is dogging you for doing it. You dont have the money for them.. fine... not alot of people do.
But for the people that do.. they like to enjoy their rims and it does bring along with it a certain level of prestige. You dont need people second guessing if your rims are real, because they have seen some putts putting high dollar logos on dime shop rims. Thats the point.
It kinda along the lines of somebody building a kit Cobra and saying that it is an original car. Then the guy with the ACTUAL Cobra is having to prove that his car is real because some dumbass tried to pass his fake one off as real.
I really dont see what part of that your not getting. Honestly
It has been said a couple of times. In the thread. but I will use your analogy to help you understand.
Let say that you buy the $2 burger. Your gonna carry it over to the fancy restaurant and put it on a plate, to try and pass it off as if you paid $20 for it? That is the gay part.
You wanna rock cheap rims.. rock cheap rims.. nobody is dogging you for doing it. You dont have the money for them.. fine... not alot of people do.
But for the people that do.. they like to enjoy their rims and it does bring along with it a certain level of prestige. You dont need people second guessing if your rims are real, because they have seen some putts putting high dollar logos on dime shop rims. Thats the point.
It kinda along the lines of somebody building a kit Cobra and saying that it is an original car. Then the guy with the ACTUAL Cobra is having to prove that his car is real because some dumbass tried to pass his fake one off as real.
I really dont see what part of that your not getting. Honestly