Originally Posted by D.Nick

So I took a ride on a 08 r6 with fresh tires on it. First thing I noticed when I hopped on is how much wider the tank was than my 02 R1. When I sat down on it, I felt a little uncomfortable but it was something that I got used to. I pulled out on the street after stalling out once because of the release point being more tricky than my bike. I had to almost let it all the way out and give it a decent amount of gas before I went anywhere. Again, that's something I could probably get used to with more experience on the bike. When I got rolling I shifted through the gears and it was almost like it shifted itself before I even thought about shifting. It was smooth as hell.

After the tires warmed up a little I took it around my favorite off ramp. First thing I noticed is that the bike kind of pushed itself around the corner. I didn't have to try to get it to lean, it pretty much went over on its own. I usually take the off ramp at around 75-80 on my bike before it starts feeling sketchy and I pushed the R6 to about 80-85 and it felt like I could have kept going if there wasn't a car in the way.

I did a couple of pulls from 1st gear til about 4th and I wasn't too happy with the no torque thing, but after 10k it screamed and pulled hard to 16.5k. I was also able to power it up in first gear and hold it all the way til redline and I felt 100% confident doing it. I might miss the power of my R1, but I definitely feel more in control on the r6. I need to really go and ride a zx10 and a 04-05 r1 and see if I am really ready to step down to a smaller and more nimble bike for the track.

Originally Posted by D.Nick

So I took a ride on a 08 r6 with fresh tires on it. First thing I noticed when I hopped on is how much wider the tank was than my 02 R1. When I sat down on it, I felt a little uncomfortable but it was something that I got used to. I pulled out on the street after stalling out once because of the release point being more tricky than my bike. I had to almost let it all the way out and give it a decent amount of gas before I went anywhere. Again, that's something I could probably get used to with more experience on the bike. When I got rolling I shifted through the gears and it was almost like it shifted itself before I even thought about shifting. It was smooth as hell.

After the tires warmed up a little I took it around my favorite off ramp. First thing I noticed is that the bike kind of pushed itself around the corner. I didn't have to try to get it to lean, it pretty much went over on its own. I usually take the off ramp at around 75-80 on my bike before it starts feeling sketchy and I pushed the R6 to about 80-85 and it felt like I could have kept going if there wasn't a car in the way.

I did a couple of pulls from 1st gear til about 4th and I wasn't too happy with the no torque thing, but after 10k it screamed and pulled hard to 16.5k. I was also able to power it up in first gear and hold it all the way til redline and I felt 100% confident doing it. I might miss the power of my R1, but I definitely feel more in control on the r6. I need to really go and ride a zx10 and a 04-05 r1 and see if I am really ready to step down to a smaller and more nimble bike for the track.

Originally Posted by snikwad

i understand what youre saying, but seriously, youre putting down a full systems based on what? lets not forget where this whole discussion started.
then you mentioned butt dyno, so yeah i see what u mean now, but there is no denying the gains you can get over a slip on, with a full system, when tuned properly.


tires slip, well basically it comes down to compensating for the tire slip when u dyno tune. every tire slips, some slip more than others.
I know a pro engine builder in TX, and ive grilled him over and over on what to ask dyno tuners before giving them my bike if i want a proper tune, and not just a simple basic tune.

he always says, if they dont have a dyno tire, or wheel, or compensate for tire slip, then theyre not really versed in what theyre doing, they basically just know how to operate the dyno and nothing more.

Originally Posted by D.Nick

So, I now know what its like to be in it in third gear and have the front wheel shoot straight up. Not a cool feeling, but I didn't freak out and held it fine.

Originally Posted by Neo Xian Wu

Good ride today. Sucks that some of those turns had gravel in them like that. You kinda get what I was talking about with body position? Tried to show you on that last off ramp before we headed back.

Originally Posted by D.Nick

Yea I saw what you talking about. The bike definitely went lower and far as the lean angle. It's gonna take a while for me to get used to it but once I do I should be fine.