4x4 Off Topic Thread
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puking from the dipstick tube? not the top but further down near the exhaust? that coupling is where an overfill comes out of mostly. or is it coming from between the engine and tranny?
and you said when going up the mountain. after the engines up to temp and within 5min or so of climbing? revving the engine high at all if yes? if all that, it may be overheating.
or is it any engine load during warmer weather?
and you said when going up the mountain. after the engines up to temp and within 5min or so of climbing? revving the engine high at all if yes? if all that, it may be overheating.
or is it any engine load during warmer weather?
Don't let me anywhere near your transmission. Freddy can attest, my 4r55e has beaten the fuck out of me,.. twice.
I would start by dropping the pan, replacing the filter and fluid and inspecting the cooler (and its lines for clogs like you said) as well as the valve body gasket (see if there's any gasket material or remnants in the bottom of the pan or sucked up into the filter's metal grate).
Transmission fluid expands when it's overheated, it's sounds like the fluid you have in there may be getting a touch old, or have a little water in it so it COULD potentially boil when it starts to heat up a little over operating temp (200+ degrees). I really recommend a fluid change and maybe the Lucas brand additive to reduce any moisture that may have seeped in. Make sure you put the correct amount of fluid in as well.
just my $.02
I would start by dropping the pan, replacing the filter and fluid and inspecting the cooler (and its lines for clogs like you said) as well as the valve body gasket (see if there's any gasket material or remnants in the bottom of the pan or sucked up into the filter's metal grate).
Transmission fluid expands when it's overheated, it's sounds like the fluid you have in there may be getting a touch old, or have a little water in it so it COULD potentially boil when it starts to heat up a little over operating temp (200+ degrees). I really recommend a fluid change and maybe the Lucas brand additive to reduce any moisture that may have seeped in. Make sure you put the correct amount of fluid in as well.
just my $.02
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lol. youre two for two on trannys.
true. didnt think of old fluid with water in it. deff sounds like overheating to me for the overflowing. i had to stop and let it cool down about 4 times on our obx trip in october. tranny had NO gears at all.
your checklist for now: new fluid, filter, pan gasket. clean the pan while its off too.
post a pic of the fluid.
and since you just got the truck and have no idea if its been serviced lately and while your tranny is still working right(as long as new fluid works), do this before its to late: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=158160
true. didnt think of old fluid with water in it. deff sounds like overheating to me for the overflowing. i had to stop and let it cool down about 4 times on our obx trip in october. tranny had NO gears at all.
your checklist for now: new fluid, filter, pan gasket. clean the pan while its off too.
post a pic of the fluid.
and since you just got the truck and have no idea if its been serviced lately and while your tranny is still working right(as long as new fluid works), do this before its to late: http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/...d.php?t=158160
Drag Busa....I'd definitely do a transmission service before dropping it out to do a rebuild as the others have said...filter, gasket and fluid...don't forget to drain the torque converter as well. It maybe running hot because the filter is restricted. A trans service is a lot cheaper than a rebuild.
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how was the fluid both times?
since you said between the engine and tranny, thats the front seal. its expands and the fluid seeps out. when it cools back down it shrinks back down and all is fine.
i would tap the pan for a DRAIN lol and a temp sensor. get yourself a gauge for it. personally i have never seen fluid drip out of mine. even tho its broke and not shifting. but mine may be related to it just being broke alltogether.
i mounted a 2nd stock cooler on mine. or you can just get an e-fan on the one you have now.
but if youre fluid looks good and its just overheating then, get a gauge installed and watch it to be sure.
since you said between the engine and tranny, thats the front seal. its expands and the fluid seeps out. when it cools back down it shrinks back down and all is fine.
i would tap the pan for a DRAIN lol and a temp sensor. get yourself a gauge for it. personally i have never seen fluid drip out of mine. even tho its broke and not shifting. but mine may be related to it just being broke alltogether.
i mounted a 2nd stock cooler on mine. or you can just get an e-fan on the one you have now.
but if youre fluid looks good and its just overheating then, get a gauge installed and watch it to be sure.
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Yeah I should put a drain on it and a temp guage for sure. The fluid that was in it when I bought it was filthy and you could tell it had been a LONG time since it had been changed. The fluid in it now looks decent but not perfect because of corse you can't get all of the old fluid out when you do a fluid and filter change. The front seal is what I was suspecting as well but every tranny shop I have talked to said its getting hot because its eating itself up so who knows. I got a second cooler for it and was going to run them in series but my buddy told me it wouldn't do any good. The truck has 187,000 miles on it so I figure the tranny is probably about at the end of its life no matter what. I might just try to locate a 5 speed swap for it and be done with it.
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i've had it with this truck....
it's POURING transmission fluid out of the pan... (thank god i havent driven it since i drove it home from working on it)
im at my wits end with this thing.....
it's POURING transmission fluid out of the pan... (thank god i havent driven it since i drove it home from working on it)
im at my wits end with this thing.....
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drag, did you find much metal shavings or anything weird on the pan magnet last time? i would try and add another cooler, maybe a bigger one then just another stock one. is the tranny 187k also? i highly doubt it, they dont really last that long lol
try that band adjustment link i posted. it may not help, but it cant hurt either.
caleb, seems everybody is having tranny issues. it doesnt look good that 3/4 are exploders and 4/4 are fords tho lol
is it on tight? did you put the gasket on(just makin sure....)? maybe its not the right gasket(i know autozone had weird shit for my engine oil pan one..)?
rusty, im sure if it was summer and i shove crap in there to stretch them out, theyd go on. but im just gonna abandon the idea. 16.5 is just a bad egg to mess with anyway
brandon, gayleb refuses to buy an exploder. ive tried many times. so i can say its not gonna happen. but if you had a v8 and the newer hatch/front bumper i wouldve loved to have it
try that band adjustment link i posted. it may not help, but it cant hurt either.
caleb, seems everybody is having tranny issues. it doesnt look good that 3/4 are exploders and 4/4 are fords tho lol
is it on tight? did you put the gasket on(just makin sure....)? maybe its not the right gasket(i know autozone had weird shit for my engine oil pan one..)?
rusty, im sure if it was summer and i shove crap in there to stretch them out, theyd go on. but im just gonna abandon the idea. 16.5 is just a bad egg to mess with anyway
brandon, gayleb refuses to buy an exploder. ive tried many times. so i can say its not gonna happen. but if you had a v8 and the newer hatch/front bumper i wouldve loved to have it
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