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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 03:22 PM
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i guess bottom line if you want to drag race get a z06 if you want to win on a race track get an elise. Im not a magazine whore by any means but numerous publications have bestowed the "best handling production car money can buy", thats a great quote by carroll shelby, unfortunately its not true for all scenarios, for drag racing id agree with that statement but not much else.
Old Oct 25, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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oh yeah, 7.7 lbs to push for every horsepower available is better (FASTER) than 10.4 lbs for every horsepower. Not knocking the Elise at all, because it is without a doubt one of the greatest DRIVERS cars of all time, but on a long track, the Z06 with more HP and a higher top end will have the advantage, not to mention the slower curves where the Elise falls out of the VVTL range, the Z06 has the torque to pull itself out from down low.

Im predicting low 13 second times and almost 1.0 G on the skidpad if not more. And the ability to own every single car on the road on a tight twisty road.
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The corvette has a 7.7 weight/hp ratio?
Old Oct 25, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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I think they meant the Z06. It's actually about 8.1 based on curb weights I've read. Of course the Z06 also pulls a 1.0 on the skidpad, so the Elise is going to outhandle it how exactly?
Old Oct 25, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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One thing everyone is forgetting...they're going to downgrade the performance of the imported version. They always do. Name one import that has the same numbers or better of it's host country's version. We'll get a re-designed Tercel by the time customs gets through with it...
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Originally posted by MerF
Name one import that has the same numbers or better of it's host country's version.
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Originally posted by SilverNB
Hope i dont offend anyone by saying this but: the corvette z06 in its present form doesnt stand a chance against the elise that is coming, the elise is quite simply an engineer's car, it follows the laws of physics better than the corvette. Mid-engine, rwd, with a hp/weight ratio of 10.4. The corvette while not extremely heavy is over half a ton heavier with a hp/weight ratio of 7.7 and less favorable weight distribution. I also dont believe that there will be a premium over the msrp because there is a waiting list for the elise.
.. wait.. you're being serious aren't you?
Old Oct 25, 2003 | 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by eng
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Really? Kudos to Subaru then! Thx for the correction.
Old Oct 25, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by SilverNB
Hope i dont offend anyone by saying this but: the corvette z06 in its present form doesnt stand a chance against the elise that is coming, the elise is quite simply an engineer's car, it follows the laws of physics better than the corvette. Mid-engine, rwd, with a hp/weight ratio of 10.4. The corvette while not extremely heavy is over half a ton heavier with a hp/weight ratio of 7.7 and less favorable weight distribution.
Where do you come up with this nonsense? You know just because you SAY things it doesn’t make it true right?

Let’s look at the facts shall we?

Corvette Z06
Curb Weight: 3115lbs
Weight Bias: 51/49 (front/rear) also shared with the standard C5 hardtop
Drag Coefficient: 0.29
HP: 405
Torque: 400
Skidpad: 1.0g
0-60: 3.9 Seconds
Top Speed: 171mph

Those performance stats are well beyond anything that silly little go-kart could hope to accomplish.

The LS6 being a pushrod V-8 is very compact and as such it does not extend over the front axles of the car making it technically midengined and accounts for its near perfect 51/49 weight bias.


Originally posted by SilverNB
I also dont believe that there will be a premium over the msrp because there is a waiting list for the elise.
There was a waiting list for the Dodge Viper RT/10 when it debuted and dealerships in California charged $240,000 for a car with a $68,000 sticker. More recently the 350Z which could be preordered a year in advance were fetching $50,000 on its $28,000 price tag.

You 4 cylinder fan boys are the worst because you'll so readly make up nonsense. Yes the Elise is a nice car, its even better without that crappy Rover engine, but it's not the supercar you claim it to be.
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Originally posted by SilvEclips
The corvette has a 7.7 weight/hp ratio?
The Z06 weighs just 3115lbs and had 405hp and 400lbs of torque.

That's 7.67 hp/weight, 7.79lb of torque/weight..

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