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Old 05-28-2005, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: need cop and ticket advice !!! please

Originally Posted by TheGoaT
neither can ABC employees
Depends. ABC enforcement officers have the same authority as state troopers.

Get a lawyer. Oddly enough, you can't use the defense of "I asked dragva what they thought" in court, so I don't know why you bothered.

If it had been me, I would have just kept on going. I would have ignored her until an on-duty, uniformed officer pulled you over, at which point, I would have been completely cooperative.
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Old 05-28-2005, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by travisnd
Dustin, did you get the ticket before or after I saw you on volvo??


way after.....it was on my way home about 2 hrs after i saw ya
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Old 05-28-2005, 07:14 PM
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[QUOTE=blaxican25]Get a lawyer. Oddly enough, you can't use the defense of "I asked dragva what they thought" in court, so I don't know why you bothered.

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ya i just figured i'd see what my chances were.......i think its bullshit, but i'm semi afraid that they'll win
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Old 05-28-2005, 07:26 PM
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I gotta go with Blax on this one. No lights on I ain't pulling in shit. I would have made a left on Volvo and hit 64 and see how far she wanted to follow me. Round and round till a real cop gets behind me....
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Old 05-28-2005, 07:28 PM
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found this
http://www.virginiadui.com/31428.htm...ession*id*val*
Wilson v. Commonwealth ( ____ Va. App. _____ Mar. 1, 2005) No. 0560-03-2: An off-duty deputy, outside his jurisdiction, observed the defendant's poor driving behavior. He followed him, called for local police, and detained him once he stopped. Even though he showed his badge, the Court held that he was acting as a citizen making a citizen arrest and affirmed the DUI conviction. The Court noted that the deputy said that he was outside his jurisdiction and that he had called, and was waiting for, local police. RULE OF LAW: Police can make "citizen arrests," so long as they don't aggressively use the "color of their office."

also read this
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...022703&invol=1
if she was out of her district or jurisdiction she would of had to make a citizens arrest
the above case refers to a DUI but lays out some of what off duty officers can do and cant,

as far as the citizens arrest I think the color or thier office is flashing their badge and shit. but I could not find anything to clearly say that.
hope this helps some.
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Old 05-28-2005, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: need cop and ticket advice !!! please

Originally Posted by TheGoaT
neither can ABC employees
Learn the law before you argue about it. A Friend of mine was pulled over by an ABC official, a uniformed officer soon arrived and ticketed my friend.
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Old 05-28-2005, 08:15 PM
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ah just make sure the cop doesnt show up to court
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Old 05-28-2005, 08:41 PM
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ya, thanks for that
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Old 05-28-2005, 09:07 PM
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I'm sorry..

Fire Marshals can issue you a ticket.
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Old 05-28-2005, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: need cop and ticket advice !!! please

There is no way she can say you where speeding as one there was no radar, and two I don't think that expedition has the proper calibration the cop cars are required to get once a month. I know this doesn't cover most of your problem, just thought it might help a little. The person that can give you the best advice in my book is John Brown. Call him
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