Horrible Experience w/ Pro-Motion Tuning in VA
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Re: Horrible Experience w/ Pro-Motion Tuning in VA
Hey Chris, yeah no i was going off of when i spoke with FERREA directly, i will have to get back to you on this. They had told me there have been screw up instances in the past where shops have install both theres and stock and it put too much pressure on the valvetrain. If you would like i will double check hopefully tomorrow if i have time between vehicles and double check that for you.
The result of me asking FERREA came because James had told me the cause of the timing belt failure could have been caused by the springs and retainers.
Thanks,
Jey Morris
The result of me asking FERREA came because James had told me the cause of the timing belt failure could have been caused by the springs and retainers.
Thanks,
Jey Morris
maybe you have keepers and seat/spring locators confused? keeper is what actualy goes onto valve steam and keeps the retainer. the seat locators go on bottom and center spring to avoid binding?
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Re: Horrible Experience w/ Pro-Motion Tuning in VA
Yes dave is a friend of the shops and bitter because i was kicked off Team Trinity. Yes a while back ago some major incedent happened with a death in the family and sickness. I had a client of mine buy a part and well that has NOTHING to do with what is going on but if you feel like wasteing time on reading a resolved issue from like 5 months ago, dave left the link in a previous post.
I only had a problem paying for a TOB 52 dollar part only because i didnt understand how u messed the old one up. Ive installed many clutches on evos and most of them can still use the one that is in there after visual inspection is done.
First you say there was oil on the Belt and not because the belt was installed wrong? Where exactly was the motor oil coming from? as far as i know if a motor is installed correctly there shouldnt be any oil on the outside of the motor correct?
As far as the Tensioner and pulley failure go, or whatever your gonna tell me next made it blow up.....i have a 3rd party specialist working on seeing what was the cause of the engine failure.....one of the problems i see is whoever put the head together used BOTH the stock and FERREA keepers....too much pressure on the head may have caused it to jump? or maybe cause the belt was put on maybe from taking it off 5 times to correct a problem that wasnt done right the first time caused the excessive use of a part failing......not to mention the bolt on the tensioner pulley was stripped down as well.........
There is just a few things to think about.....if you run out of excuses i will have and answer to why the motor actually failed in due time. So I ask that we get started in resolveing these problems, i have had many problems posted for 2 days now and still no resolve. Ill be waiting for an answer or Monies as u put it.
thanks,
Jey Morris
****i merely cut and paste some stuff to make sure everyone is getting answes from both sides. Thanks.
I had no problem buying bearings stop trying to make me sound like i dont know anything about these cars. Other than this im the only one to do work on that car besides one other company for sponsorship.
Get to what you should be doing James/Promotion and fix these problems. And for god sake stop bashing me. I bow down to the greater person just fix these issues and stop trying to push all the blame on me. I got a life to get back to. All i want is my car problems that you caused to be fixed. Im not really asking for something i shouldnt be.
What i really dont get James, if Chris had put in his 2 weeks and you KNEW he was leaving why would u have him work on my car? especially if he was the only one that knew anything about evos? Only to leave it to trying to find someone to work on the car that doesnt?
I only had a problem paying for a TOB 52 dollar part only because i didnt understand how u messed the old one up. Ive installed many clutches on evos and most of them can still use the one that is in there after visual inspection is done.
First you say there was oil on the Belt and not because the belt was installed wrong? Where exactly was the motor oil coming from? as far as i know if a motor is installed correctly there shouldnt be any oil on the outside of the motor correct?
As far as the Tensioner and pulley failure go, or whatever your gonna tell me next made it blow up.....i have a 3rd party specialist working on seeing what was the cause of the engine failure.....one of the problems i see is whoever put the head together used BOTH the stock and FERREA keepers....too much pressure on the head may have caused it to jump? or maybe cause the belt was put on maybe from taking it off 5 times to correct a problem that wasnt done right the first time caused the excessive use of a part failing......not to mention the bolt on the tensioner pulley was stripped down as well.........
There is just a few things to think about.....if you run out of excuses i will have and answer to why the motor actually failed in due time. So I ask that we get started in resolveing these problems, i have had many problems posted for 2 days now and still no resolve. Ill be waiting for an answer or Monies as u put it.
thanks,
Jey Morris
****i merely cut and paste some stuff to make sure everyone is getting answes from both sides. Thanks.
I had no problem buying bearings stop trying to make me sound like i dont know anything about these cars. Other than this im the only one to do work on that car besides one other company for sponsorship.
Get to what you should be doing James/Promotion and fix these problems. And for god sake stop bashing me. I bow down to the greater person just fix these issues and stop trying to push all the blame on me. I got a life to get back to. All i want is my car problems that you caused to be fixed. Im not really asking for something i shouldnt be.
What i really dont get James, if Chris had put in his 2 weeks and you KNEW he was leaving why would u have him work on my car? especially if he was the only one that knew anything about evos? Only to leave it to trying to find someone to work on the car that doesnt?
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Re: Horrible Experience w/ Pro-Motion Tuning in VA
im removing my post... i have nothing to say in this matter.
i've known of jey through being a current member of team trinity. i know of him BSin to make himself look better in the tuners eye.
James' i've known a few years. show cars he's pretty damn good. performance building eh. he has helped me in the past along w/ other past members of proMotion.
lowering springs installed(by philip), compression test on gsx(by jeremy, chris was there), harmonic balancer removal and install on my gsx when i 1st bought it (with help at my house w/ james).
just examples. the shop IMO shouldnt have lasted this long. not having a 'tuner', actually at the shop now, eh. techs they had two and for whatever reason they are gone now. i wouldnt trust my DSM w/ any1 in that shop.
i've known of jey through being a current member of team trinity. i know of him BSin to make himself look better in the tuners eye.
James' i've known a few years. show cars he's pretty damn good. performance building eh. he has helped me in the past along w/ other past members of proMotion.
lowering springs installed(by philip), compression test on gsx(by jeremy, chris was there), harmonic balancer removal and install on my gsx when i 1st bought it (with help at my house w/ james).
just examples. the shop IMO shouldnt have lasted this long. not having a 'tuner', actually at the shop now, eh. techs they had two and for whatever reason they are gone now. i wouldnt trust my DSM w/ any1 in that shop.
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Re: Horrible Experience w/ Pro-Motion Tuning in VA
you know, ive come to conclusion i dont really care anymore. you have a shady shop and a customere who is exactly like jeff norman. wow, talk about karma
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From: Fredericksburg
Re: Horrible Experience w/ Pro-Motion Tuning in VA
Still awaiting a return phone call from Jey..
However Delonte, suggest you stay completely out of this situation as far these internet forums as you will only stir up drama within these forums.
James
However Delonte, suggest you stay completely out of this situation as far these internet forums as you will only stir up drama within these forums.
James
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Re: Horrible Experience w/ Pro-Motion Tuning in VA
Promotion has opted to either not receive due to internet failure, and some of just not returning my ims. I have limited time in the AM and PM to contact them. Even via phone is next to impossible due to myself working on other clients cars all day. However i was able to reach James on AIM today. He stated that he was to busy to talk tonight, tomorrow(dyno day or something) so it will have to be pushed to Monday. And again will remain that James i would say if you can call me on SUnday as that is a day you have off so we may discuss this problem in great detail. I know its your day off and you will complain but i dont take days off and work all week. Sorry man, just call me on Sunday.
As of now there is no update, as i have not been able to work on our shop Evo due to tremendous amounts of work that i have lined up for the next few weeks. However at nite after this weekend and with xmas i may have some free time to go work on it. But as of now. Nothing is resolved or has been discussed.
I will be awaiting James call Sunday.
Thanks,
Jey Morris
As of now there is no update, as i have not been able to work on our shop Evo due to tremendous amounts of work that i have lined up for the next few weeks. However at nite after this weekend and with xmas i may have some free time to go work on it. But as of now. Nothing is resolved or has been discussed.
I will be awaiting James call Sunday.
Thanks,
Jey Morris
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Re: Horrible Experience w/ Pro-Motion Tuning in VA
Jey:
Phone message left with you at 5:55PM today on your cell phone. If you continue to post nothing but lies, there will be no further discussion and I will gladly seek legal action against you to the fullest. You have my number to call me. For the past 3 business days you have continued to reach me around 5-6pm via AIM... We have a toll free number, call the shop directly. Our phone number is 877-724-6682 in case you have misplaced it. I am a shop owner trying to resolve your issues and concerns, however if you feel as if your car is not important enough to call me during business hours, I am sorry but I cannot assist you. However this is your second and final warning, if you continue posting lies, action will be taken.
Thanks
James.
Phone message left with you at 5:55PM today on your cell phone. If you continue to post nothing but lies, there will be no further discussion and I will gladly seek legal action against you to the fullest. You have my number to call me. For the past 3 business days you have continued to reach me around 5-6pm via AIM... We have a toll free number, call the shop directly. Our phone number is 877-724-6682 in case you have misplaced it. I am a shop owner trying to resolve your issues and concerns, however if you feel as if your car is not important enough to call me during business hours, I am sorry but I cannot assist you. However this is your second and final warning, if you continue posting lies, action will be taken.
Thanks
James.