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Old Dec 6, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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just get a gtr-34
Old Dec 7, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Silverbullet86
The bottom ends have the same block and internals
No they don't they def don't, NA bottom end rods are thinnger and the pistons of course are higher compression and weaker as well.
Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurazy Kracka
NA-T's are junk. i've never seen one with stock bottom n head that makes decent power. supra's are hogs in full trim and you need a good 400whp just to be somewhat quick.
tt wheels are 9.5 wide.
I know of at least one car on this forum alone, that produced in excess of 700RWHP-consistently and without issues. There is no reason that the GE engine cannot attain close to the same numbers that a GTE engine can produce. Want proof? Just call the guys at Boostlogic. They will be more than willing to school you up on NA-T capabilities.

But back to the original topic, I would take a TT 6-speed pre OBDII FTW. If you like to tackle projects like I do, an NA-T 5-speed is a pretty easy way to get a 12 second car with less than 5k invested in upgrades.

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Old Dec 7, 2008 | 09:08 AM
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get a TT 6 speed. Also do the guy that said na-ts are junk my previous na-t was making 500rwhp with stock internals. Not that much hp by any means but its still pretty descent.
Old Dec 7, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by M1KeyC
for americans living over seas you can just call USAA and they will insure you at a slightly higher rate but still well within a reasonable price. UK insurance is based on engine size and some other things. They have certain type of licenses too. What Ive been told is anything 2.0L + is considered a sports engine or something to that effect so insurance is high as shit. Thats why all the ricers around here rock 1.3L POS's.
He won't be eligible for USAA
Old Dec 7, 2008 | 11:38 AM
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they have the same bottom, minus the oil squirter. the rods are the same i think.
the pistons are different because of higher compression.
head is different.
some 7m guys are swapping 2jzge vs 1jz and going na-t with them in their mk3s.

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=119214
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Originally Posted by NX2KDET
No they don't they def don't, NA bottom end rods are thinnger and the pistons of course are higher compression and weaker as well.
balls. i completely forgot about higher CR. The GE pistons aren't dished out like the GTE pistons. The rods and crank are the same. Oil squirters are slightly different, however it can be drilled out to be similar to the one in the GTE.

I don't know what it is that makes ppl say NA-Ts are weaker. Whatever it is, it still makes plenty of power. Check out some of the bolt on setups on supraforums. They are still making some serious power.
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 11:46 AM
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I had 2
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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Looks like right now its a toss up between having a manual transmission or a twin turbo car. It seems like manual turbos are hard to come by, in England at least.
Old Dec 8, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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I think it all depends on your ultimate goals for the car. The NA-T's W58 tranny can hold up to about 450 safely. I think the biggest struggle with the NA-T supras is the tuning for daily driving. The AEM EMS is still going for $1200+ and then you have the tuning and dyno time on top of that to pay for. Once you start talking 450+ you are talking about either a getrag transmission which is still pretty damn expensive, a R-154 from a MKIII which you have to buy a bunch of 1jz parts to fit, or an american tranny conversion kit which will probably come to about $4000+ once all is said and done. If you could find a TT for a reasonable price then I would just bite the bullet. If you want to go NA-T it's going to take a lot of research and time to make it a quality ride.

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