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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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shit my GSX is down right now but i still love it
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Hybrid AWD
rotorsownyou7/blaxican why not carry this to a PM or spo.If I were a mod, id warn both of you for being stupid.
The whole intent was to let the discussion continue without idiots chiming in.
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Originally Posted by blah
I'm gonna ask you because I feel you'd know the best. But what part of the car fails the most? Is it from lack of maintenance or lack of design from Mitsubishi/GM? I've asked a few of my friend who own them and they all say different things and there is no difinite answer. And out of those people, I can only think of three who's cars are on the street now. Yet, they all still love them. I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm just curious.
Even though you didnt ask me Im gonna put my $.02 in on that topic. I would say the rings are the first to start showing signs, if not the turbo first. I honestly havent seen a lot of motor failures through my course of learning about 4g63's and 64's, only motor problems are the crankwalk.

I see crankwalk as being limited though, think about all of cars produced from 90-99 and then take that number and throw in how many of them have crankwalked, it's very slim. So the whole areguement that all DSM's crankwalk I think is overrated. My motor crankwalked at 105,XXX miles 3 years ago. If I had to compare that to something, maybe how the GM rear ends in the 1995-1998 Chevy K1500's are so weak and usually blow up. How about the 2003 Ford Cobra's with the cooling TSB that is out? I could keep going for a million different cars, fact of the matter is that there is a flaw with every car.

The stock motor mounts suck after about 100,000 miles too
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Originally Posted by rotorsownyou7
WHo are you? You get the fuck out of this thread. You sure are talking shit to someone you don't even know.
You seriously think I give a fuck who you are? I'll talk shit to whoever the fuck I want. Thanks. Bye.

Originally Posted by sethmo
Have you ever owned a DSM yourself?
Yes, it picked up a bad rod knock before 120k, I scraped the VIN #'s off and drove it into a river. If you'd like, I'll tell you about some of my ex-gf's DSM's too. Care to hear?

Originally Posted by TheSpeedFactor
They hold up to the abuse of the daily grind...

The 4g63 out of the box is about as strong as they come in stock trim...
Wrong and wrong. They're horrible at 'the daily grind', and 400hp on a stock short block is nothing to brag about.

Originally Posted by Hybrid AWD
it's very slim.... My motor crankwalked
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rotorsownyou7
You STFU. I can say whatever the hell I want. DSM's are not fucking reliable, no matter what the hell you have to say about it.
Rx7's are not reliable.
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pivt
Rx7's are not reliable.

Its all about the tune and taking care of it. I have had 2 dsms for 3 years. NEVER have I been on the side of the road for them, not once. One lost a speed sensor once. The second one I picked up the owner had abused it, but once i did some maintenance it runs like a top. I go to autocrosses every other weekend and I spent 30 minutes running my hard full throttle, full braking at Summit and it did not have one problem except I boiled the clutch fluid a little bit. Completely understable under those circumstances.

In fact, me and my friends havent had one trouble with our dsms. I have at least 3 friends with dsms and we dont seem to have any trouble with what all these other guys have. Not one of my friend's cars that I help to take care of has failed. Maybe an alternator once, or a stock turbo that came with the car started smoking at 92k miles, but when the manual says to replace the turbo at 75k miles there is no reason to say they are unreliable. HE bought the car at 90k miles and he hadnt gotten enough money to get a new turbo yet.

Crankwalk is an excuse that other cars give to put down the dsm name. Seriously we have one of the highest horsepower numbers for any 4-cylinder cars, my my we have something that happens in like 1-3 percent of dsms. Oh no what an epidemic....

PS: The speed sensor did not leave them on the side of the road, I was able to drive it to a shop.
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I agree with u 100% It is all about the tune.....Turbo-Trix tuned my car in N.J. and they have tuned some of the fastest dsm's around.....get the car tuned on a dyno and take car of the car.
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Originally Posted by blah
Mitsubishi/GM
GM has no part of DSM manufacturing....i think you were thinking of chrysler...
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by blah
I'm gonna ask you because I feel you'd know the best. But what part of the car fails the most? Is it from lack of maintenance or lack of design from Mitsubishi/GM? I've asked a few of my friend who own them and they all say different things and there is no difinite answer. And out of those people, I can only think of three who's cars are on the street now. Yet, they all still love them. I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm just curious.
Meh theres isnt a real definite answer to that. A popular one that I have seen is the balance shaft belt snapping and taking out the timing belt as well, causing the timing to be thrown out of wack and making the valves slap the pistons. Right now my "DSM" is down due to a spun balance shaft bearing. I was lucky that it did not freeze up the balance shaft and snap my balance shaft belt. This is why a lot of DSMers elimintate the balance shafts and balance shaft belt.

Other then that, most of the DSM problems are somewhat common. Just like any other boosted car, the stock headgasket will go after a descent amount of time.

And crankwalk is overrated, hardly anybody is well educated on the subject. It isnt as common as most people would like to think. That is the biggest reason I hear when people are downing DSMs, they think every 4g63t will crankwalk...
Old Oct 19, 2005 | 05:15 AM
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Thanks for the responses guys.



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