Originally Posted by snikwad

Descent stuff, nothing really worng with them, but for me, theyre not comfortable at all.
Plus i dont think Joe Rocket fits people wiht skinny frames as well as the Italian brands.

Originally Posted by Poor_S13_Driver

T226, Im probably going to come of as an ass, but oh well i can put in my thoughts. PERSONALLY of all the 600's your looking at, really dosent matter whos name is on it. Just pick what FEELS good. I also would suggest NOT to get a 600 for your first bike. Because it WILL slow your learning process on a bike. You WILL be scared of it on the street, and that probably goes for whatever bike you get at first. The example of the S10 and M3 is true, with dirt and street bikes. But think about this........ Your on the street in your M3(600ccsportbike of your choice here)...are you just going to whack it into the first corner you see and hope you know enough about stopping/counter steering to save you... OR are you going to whack your S10 into a corner(enter..ninja250/500 or comparible sportbike) and use what you know to live on that. The smaller bike is going to win hands down. Its going to get you to A-B with a little less drama/ gut wrench. All im saying is when your new and on a 600-1000+cc bike you are going to hold back and be scared. Why not flog the hell outta a 250-500 smaller bike...get good and learn something.....then flog a sportbike. Its all about the learnign curve You also said your in the pricing and money stages and you wanna do it right the first time. GREAT. Go buy a $2500 SV or ninja500. A guy once told me ""why i wanted to go buy a newer 600, he said you dont plan on riding long?"" Obviously you like bikes and plan on riding for awhile, so why cant you spend a year on a Ninja 250 get good, then progress? Pick up a bike for 2500 ride it for a year, then sell it to another guy learning for minimal loss, then use that as a downpayment on something else.

Ridden dirtbikes for awhile, and i had the chance to start learning to ride streetbikes. First bike I rode was a 99' Ninja 6R (was my buddys first bike when he was18) I was scared, i was afraid to use the brakes, and tons of other stuff. Now i realized its not worth it. Hes gotten into 1 major accident and two minor accidents in 2 years. And over 150,000 in bills to fix him. He is still riding to this day. All im saying is you said you want to have cost practicality/ money stages. All that goes out the window when you wreck. and you WILL eventually there is NO way of getting around it. But back to the story, i stopped riding that bike, even thoguh it is A LOT tamer than newer 600 ive ridden. And my first bike will be a used SV in a few years. IM sorry for the rant and if I came off as an ass, but I just been too many hospital rooms and funerals cause people are dumb and arent honest with themself. (NOTE: people are dumb and a lot of accidents are due to excess/speed and just plain old dumb. I am NOT saying you are like this, just going from what i have seen.) PLEASE go to this website. ride2die.com and take a look, it will make you be honest with yourself. All of this is coming from a "19 yr old testosterone filled kid". I hope this helped or shed some light on something, and if you want any other info about anything lemme know, im actually a pretty cool guy.

Originally Posted by duder

Those are two different kinds of bikes and two different worlds. If you're crossing over from dirt to street or from street to dirt, assume that you're a noob again.

Originally Posted by Poor_S13_Driver

I cant tell if the reply two blocks up is asking questions, because of all the :quote: w/e. A SV is a Suzuki SV650. V-twin bike. A 600RR is just a regular sportbike. The RR usually mean "race ready". Kawasaki had a RR model(the new one probably has that badge too) and Honda has a RR model. All the 600 sportbikes are race ready, just a little something extra at the end of the name My best suggestion would be go to all the manufactures website. kawasaki.com suzuki.com, etc. and just browse the models. You can usually have side by side comparisons of diffrent models too, and you get high quality pictures to oogle at. -lyons

Originally Posted by T226

i think i said earlier, im not sure, but the reason i asked was b/c i rode once on a friends (250 i think. im not sure its really small tho) at gosnolds hope park and loved it. even took a nasty spill and got back on.

but either way im still a n00b to both

Originally Posted by duder

You can learn the basics of a motorcycle from a dirt bike and vice versa. But, it really is a whole different world when it's not falling off of a jump that will hurt you, it's getting hit by that truck that just turned left in front of you.