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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by IMSHAKN
I only passed on information that I received when I brought up the same questions to some people that I happen to know who have access to the answers. Apparently an earlier version of the bill was addressed to all motorists regardless of residency however they found that it was not enforceable on out of state motorists.

I can't answer why it didn't receive any publicity other than to say that the government watchdogs don't appear to be concerned with it. Other than the kids on here complaining, I haven't seen much uproar about it. It was mentioned in the local news a few nights ago, but it was a quick blurb and everyone that they showed interviews of were supportive.

You are the sole person in this thread expressing valid concerns about this bill becoming law and you know what needs to be done to fix it. I also applaud your efforts to let everyone here know whose legislators voted for and against it.
Thanks....my biggest concern is expressed by Thomas Jefferson himself when he speaks of the potential slide into tyrany when people of good conscience are quiet. The man was pure genius, and very astute relative to human nature.

This issue and the transit authority are just 2 examples of many things I see going on in this nation, politically and otherwise, that I fear will eventually bring an end to this wonderful American experiment. We as citizens have taken too much for granted for too long. I fear we are too apathetic, or too comfortably ignorant to stop that eventual slide. I would not want to be my grand kids......
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Murphyd311
Cute, Hitler remarks. Sorry your pussy got hurt. I never said that officers shouldn't use discretion, just that the law should be very clear on what you can and can't do. All of your arguments have been ludicrous and haven't generally had anything to do with the point I've been trying to make, like above. But I guess if you get the last post in, no matter how stupid, you win right?
Originally Posted by Digger70chall
Why didn't you answer my question? I was simply giving you another scenario, instead of DUI it could just as easily be any number of infractions. I legally own a gun, should i be able to shoot it in the middle of town? It will only affect you if you are hit by the bullets correct, so using your rational that should be just fine.
Originally Posted by Murphyd311
If your neighbor was blasting [insert music you hate here] you wouldn't go tell them to turn that shit down because you think that makes you:
a controlling communist that wants to dictate what I can and can't do with property I lawfully purchased, pay taxes and registration for.
My point is we all need to live together and tolerate our differences. If we try to dictate every aspect of life it denounces our "freedom".

In this day and age the gov't and certain persons pry into peoples lives when they have no business doing so.

The law is written is without discretion and is dependant on how much of an prick the cop is and/or redundant the nosey asshole that calls the cops.

I think the line is drawn when something infringes on others at a physical level. DUI, street racing on busy roads and driving like a maniac in neighborhoods are what severely injure people and cause deaths.

Music and video never physically injured or killed anyone. However if you are watching or listening to risque' materials you should use discretion in the interest of your fellow neighbor. Although if you feel the need to openly broadcast it then only an idiot would expect no trouble.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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i can agree with all that...and nobody ended up being a nazi retard in the end
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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Just got caught for driving on suspended a couple months ago, lucky me. Definitely won't be doing that again.
Old Jun 28, 2007 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 4SFED4
I think the line is drawn when something infringes on others at a physical level. DUI, street racing on busy roads and driving like a maniac in neighborhoods are what severely injure people and cause deaths.

Music and video never physically injured or killed anyone.
See we agree up until 'physical'. There are plenty of things people can do (that are against the law) that aren't physical but still infringes on others.

While music and video haven't injured anyone, some people just don't have the same level of respect and decency that most of society has. That's where the laws come in. Most of the time the cop is just going to tell you to turn your shit down, but with the laws at least he has a leg to stand on. I know that if I had to ever call the cops on my neighbors for being to loud at 2am on a Tuesday (they've always turned their shit down when I say something) that the police will have the law to back up what they say.

That's all I'm really saying.
Old Jun 28, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Murphyd311
There are plenty of things people can do (that are against the law) that aren't physical but still infringes on others.

While music and video haven't injured anyone, some people just don't have the same level of respect and decency that most of society has. That's where the laws come in. Most of the time the cop is just going to tell you to turn your shit down, but with the laws at least he has a leg to stand on. I know that if I had to ever call the cops on my neighbors for being to loud at 2am on a Tuesday (they've always turned their shit down when I say something) that the police will have the law to back up what they say.
I can agree with that.

I just can't stand the citizens that constantly call the police and go over board perverting the law for simple crap.
Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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I didnt want to read thru 15 pages but according to Channel 3, the only way you get hit with these hefty fines are if you already have 8 negative driving points or more. So if you have a good record but happen to get a reckless driving, you dont pay thousands of dollars in fines. Its still ridiculous and is only a revenue generator.
Old Jun 28, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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I didnt want to read thru 15 pages but according to Channel 3, the only way you get hit with these hefty fines are if you already have 8 negative driving points or more. So if you have a good record but happen to get a reckless driving, you dont pay thousands of dollars in fines. Its still ridiculous and is only a revenue generator.
I haven't seen anything about that. Got a link?

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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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I haven't seen anything about that. Got a link?

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It was in yesterdays paper. We all basically start from a fresh plate, and new points will accumlate, than civil penalties will follow. Either way they are gona fuck you sooner or later, I might just keep my suv for a couple years to get my driving record straight.
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Originally Posted by WallysDa
It was in yesterdays paper. We all basically start from a fresh plate, and new points will accumlate, than civil penalties will follow. Either way they are gona fuck you sooner or later, I might just keep my suv for a couple years to get my driving record straight.

And you believe everything you read in the paper? Go to the web site all you need to know is there . Is there no end to all this whining about the new fines, just drive right, Right, now damn it lets talk about something else!



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