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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 03:14 AM
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Default Re: New Driving Penalties effective: july 1st

Originally Posted by shy_guy98ex
Isn't it unconstitutional to fine excessively?

4th amendment?
No...try again
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 4SFED4
Not true.
The minimum speed limit on an interstate highway in VA is 45 MPH. In fact I believe that is mandated by DOT on any interstate in the country.
Prove it.

The only road in VA that has a minimum speed limit is the Bay-Bridge Tunnel. There is not a set minimum speed limit on any other highway in VA so that drivers can make adjustments due to road conditions. You can get a speeding ticket for doing 35 in a 55 in nasty road conditions.
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 04:21 AM
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Default Re: New Driving Penalties effective: july 1st

Originally Posted by Hi Skuuu

When your under 18 you cant have more than one minor as a passenger.
I LOVE that law.

everyone here knows (if you're passed the good ole' teen years) that teenagers with other teenagers in the car is a recipe for distractions and bad driving whether it be showing off to your friends or carrying on in the car and not paying attention to the road.

So I love this one. I think it's great.
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by caeavesRSX-S
The enforcement projects resulted in more than 26,000 traffic summonses and arrests being made between the two heavily-traveled corridors.

26000 times minimum of $100 bucks each equals damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!! 2.6 million the state made during just four of these events in one year. Yet they can't use that money to give teachers a decent raise, instead it goes to fund more of these events.

Out of the 20 people who died, 5 weren't belted in, which is Darwin at it's finest. So 15 people died in total. Let's assume low and say 100,000 people were on the road. That is .00015 of a percent dying out there. More people are killed by coconuts falling from trees. More were killed at Va Tech, yet the cops didn't saturate every campus in the state to prevent more tragedies.

So what gives?
Safety is just a thin guise for money. Let's take the revenue out of the safety equation and see how willing the officer's bosses are to send them out in force. How would you enforce laws without financial penalties?? Easy. Community service. You violate traffic laws, you spend 40 hours feeding the homeless, cleaning the streets, covering graffiti, fixing potholes, helping build low income housing. This would solve most of the states real problems like the hundreds of homeless or poor people dying from starvation or lack of adequate shelter.

With free labor more could ever be accomplished than just with revenue that disappears into huge budgets without oversight. Call it pie in the sky dreaming but I would sacrifice that .00015 of a percent to save hundreds and make life worth fucking living for everyone, not just the elite.


WTF are you babbling about?
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 04:59 AM
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Default Re: New Driving Penalties effective: july 1st

Originally Posted by caeavesRSX-S
26000 times minimum of $100 bucks each equals damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!! 2.6 million the state made during just four of these events in one year.
You have to subtract expenses before you come up with profit. Wages for police officers and dispatchers, squad car, maintenance, gas, equipment (computer, radar guns, radios), supplies (pens, ticketbooks, etc).

Your figure is way off.
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


The fines should be based on income like in Germany. Some billionaire got fined $25k for tailgating..... drop in the bucket for him, but it wouldn't be for me!
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They're not excessive, so it doesn't really matter.
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Default Re: New Driving Penalties effective: july 1st

Originally Posted by shy_guy98ex
Isn't it unconstitutional to fine excessively?

4th amendment?
Originally Posted by shy_guy98ex
Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


The fines should be based on income like in Germany. Some billionaire got fined $25k for tailgating..... drop in the bucket for him, but it wouldn't be for me!
Originally Posted by IMSHAKN
They got around the excessive fines because these are not fines, they are administrative assessments. These administrative assessments are attached to the drivers license by the DMV, hence the reason that non-residents are not assessed.
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Default Re: New Driving Penalties effective: july 1st

Originally Posted by MAD_DOHC
They're not excessive, so it doesn't really matter.
So someone who makes 30k/yr gets fined $1050 plus another $800 + court cost for reckless driving and then still paid a lawyer $500, thats quite a bit of money. I'd say its quite excessive.
Old Jul 2, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by IEAT50S
So someone who makes 30k/yr gets fined $1050 plus another $800 + court cost for reckless driving and then still paid a lawyer $500, thats quite a bit of money. I'd say its quite excessive.
You can say it all you want, but it's not. The lawyer is optional so that's on you to pay.

I've had a couple wreckless drivings and none of them were ever $800. And the $1050 fine is broken up over three years or $350/yr.

Keep reaching cause you're still not making any valid points.



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